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The Future of Locomotive 3820.

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Have you had a ride on 3820 in it''s hay day?
Yes
 16%  [ 8 ]
No
 76%  [ 38 ]
Can't remember!
 8%  [ 4 ]
Total Votes : 50

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taggy Deputy Commissioner   Joined: Feb 06, 2006
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 11:38 pm
I have heard from the guys at dorrigo that 3813 will become the second 3820. Static preservation. Nice too see another mighty 38 around NSW!! Yes well with 3822, catch points and loco wheels don't mix well!! Just think The Rev, FIVE 38 CLASS LOCOS, NOOOOOOOOOO Twisted Evil



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BL2 Train Controller   Joined: Jul 08, 2006
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:45 am
pic of 3820 on arhs tour late 72 on my page.
This tour ran to morrisett( i think), then doubled with 5112,replaced by 6042 which doubled with 5112 to broadmeadow then double garrats to martins creek
3820 thenreturned from Newcastle to Sydney.
Dull overcast day....instamatic struggled to cope with light but I got some pics!  
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:42 pm
see if this works

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MrNathan Chief Commissioner   Joined: Sep 22, 2004
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:36 pm
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I still believe that 3822 would have had a chance in preservation if it was not wrecked from being driven through open catch points


Not really, as it really had as much chance as 3827. Both were being used frequently on ARHS or RTM tours, and in the end 27 met the torch.
 
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NSWRTM123 Chief Commissioner   Joined: Nov 09, 2007
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:23 am
Well, SMR30. You are right about how long it will be for 3820 to steam again. aside from 3642 and 5910, there's also all the upgrading of the museum, 3085 is in the works bay, so is 1219, 3214, J&A Brown 4 and 5, plus numerous carriages under overhaul, along with the cosmetic restorations of the Silver City Comet and 6042. There's also the fact that 3820 donated numerous boiler fittings to 3801 in 1986. It could be possible to have two 38s running with the RTM. 3801 could work for allocated periods, while being given routine servicing [url]between periods of service and 3820 could fill in for 3801 and vice-versa. We can always dream Rolling Eyes



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mynameismike Assistant Commissioner   Joined: Sep 01, 2005
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:53 pm
If we just step back from the argument for the moment, Is there really a demand for a third C38 in NSW.

Has anyone ever considered taking 3830 somewhere outside of NSW? a-la R766 style.

I do know that the flying green condom came over here in the 80's but perhaps its time for something else to wander over the border.



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NSWRTM123 Chief Commissioner   Joined: Nov 09, 2007
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:19 pm
mynameismike wrote:
Has anyone ever considered taking 3830 somewhere outside of NSW? a-la R766 style.

3830's already been south of the border to Melbourne on the 'Millenium Aurora' tour. 3642 doubled up with 3801 for the 'Pirrinari Whyalla' tour in 1972 to SA (correct on spelling of the name if needed). 3820 went to Melbourne with 3801 in 1973 on the first steam hauled train to go from Sydney to Melbourne. 3813 went to Port Augusta on the 'Western Endeavour' tour.



Save Eveleigh from "progress".
No 12 storey zoning over LES
3801 limited and NSWRTM Forever
Alcos Rule!!!!!
 
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Jas_3001 Chief Commissioner   Joined: Mar 18, 2005
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Jas_3001   
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:54 pm
NSWRTM123 wrote:
3085 is in the works bay


I didnt know that Right up the back on 6 road was "the works bay".



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NSWGR 3827 Assistant Commissioner   Joined: Oct 30, 2005
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:59 pm
NSWRTM123 wrote:
mynameismike wrote:
Has anyone ever considered taking 3830 somewhere outside of NSW? a-la R766 style.

3830's already been south of the border to Melbourne on the 'Millenium Aurora' tour. 3642 doubled up with 3801 for the 'Pirrinari Whyalla' tour in 1972 to SA (correct on spelling of the name if needed). 3820 went to Melbourne with 3801 in 1973 on the first steam hauled train to go from Sydney to Melbourne. 3813 went to Port Augusta on the 'Western Endeavour' tour.


3642 also went south of the border in 1992.
 
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GrahamH Assistant Commissioner   Joined: Aug 04, 2007
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GrahamH   
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:17 pm
3820, on a Newcastle - Gosford pass, 20 mins down at Awaba when I was offered a cab ride after photographing it. Driver said with a grin 'hang on, we're making up time'. At Ourimbah had to wait a minute or two for the timetable to catch up. B R I L L I A N T Then a relatively sedate run to Gosford. I never cabbed an express or a mail but this will do as a sampler.

But if I had $1,000,000 to spend on a a steam loco I would restore / add any possible innovation to 3616 including a CR tender and optimise for tender-first running (100Km/h) rather than restore 3820.

Another interstate run, of sorts. IIRC 3813s last run was the tour to Brisbane in January 1973 (open to correction).



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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:04 pm
Regarding that trip to Brisbane with 3813, just prior to the trip it had a hot big end bearing. It was repaired but there were still doubts about its reliability particularly as it was going on a long trip. Consequently, the crew were told to flog it up the Beecroft bank and give the bearing a good workout. The crew took the instructions to heart and as a result it was one of the fastest climbs I have ever recorded and furthermore it was done with the maximum load for a 38 class. The sound was magnificent. If I recall the train was stopped as Thornleigh to check on the bearing and fortunately all was OK.
Ah fond memories!!
 
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NSWRTM123   
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:33 pm
Jas_3001 wrote:
NSWRTM123 wrote:
3085 is in the works bay


I didnt know that Right up the back on 6 road was "the works bay".

Well J&A Brown No.4 (a.k.a NSWGR 20n) is two locos up on road 5 undergoing a cosmetic restoration. I suppose now you're going to say it's not in the works bay.



Save Eveleigh from "progress".
No 12 storey zoning over LES
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Alcos Rule!!!!!
 
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barny Junior Train Controller   Joined: Apr 26, 2006
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barny   
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:36 pm
mynameismike wrote:


Has anyone ever considered taking 3830 somewhere outside of NSW? a-la R766 style.

The further the better
 
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GrahamH Assistant Commissioner   Joined: Aug 04, 2007
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GrahamH   
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:55 pm
C3827 wrote:
snip Consequently, the crew were told to flog it up the Beecroft bank and give the bearing a good workout. The crew took the instructions to heart and as a result it was one of the fastest climbs I have ever recorded and furthermore it was done with the maximum load for a 38 class. The sound was magnificent. If I recall the train was stopped as Thornleigh to check on the bearing and fortunately all was OK.
Ah fond memories!!


Yes... On the first evening many acquaintances and others talked about the climb up through Epping. Sad I got on at Hornsby. When I got home my Mum said they had heard it, south of the hwy in Wahroonga.



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Jas_3001 Chief Commissioner   Joined: Mar 18, 2005
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Jas_3001   
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:12 pm
NSWRTM123 wrote:

Well J&A Brown No.4 (a.k.a NSWGR 20n) is two locos up on road 5 undergoing a cosmetic restoration. I suppose now you're going to say it's not in the works bay.


Yeap i am going to say it. Thats not a works bay.



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