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dalts 1985
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:03 pm
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| MrNathan wrote: | | JoeT wrote: | All that fresh air and rain water is sure making the PFZ age quickly. What a shame.  |
Is it even being used |
So far since it's arrived I don't think I've seen it out & abt once... Would make for a good car to use on the S'thern Aurora specials, due to it's on-board HEP sets to help power the cars.
Could also be used as a lounge withe the 3 BCS Lounge Cars...
Eg: PFZ (Guards compartm't for guard & staff, so no need for LAN staff car)-BCS-BCS-BCS-RMS-RMS-MBE-TBC-GMS 1.
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Jas_3001
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:42 pm
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Why wouldnt there be a use for the LAN? Staff and volunteers do sleep in it when its out on jobs.
Personally id rather sleep in a SLEEPING CAR than a SITTING car.
All opinions expressed by me are mine only...
Caution Horn broken.... watch for finger.
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MrNathan
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3642in2008
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macey
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:16 pm
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| Quote: | | because the Eveliegh sheds are closing, R.I.P. 3801 LTD |
They wont close unless we dont do something about it..
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Raichase
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:05 pm
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Oi!
Lads, while I appreciate the kind words, I did not share these photos to spark another spat between some of the more vocal of you to have another biff over NSWRTM and 3801ltd.
If you can't stay to the topic, then just don't bloody post, please. If you want to keep fighting, I'll have to ask for this topic to be closed, and I'll think twice about sharing any more RTM or 3801ltd photos in future, seeing as you lot can't even look at a piece of rolling stock without looking for a scrap.
You know who you are, so don't try and fob off with "well, he started it". I don't care.
Get over it, I'm sick of reading this rubbish in every thread.
- Raichase.
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Comments made are not my own and may be complete rubbish.
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TE2815
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NSWRTM123
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:05 pm
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| TE2815 wrote: | I know they have non-power van *MHN 2365 Bogie Brake Van with centre Guards compartment. Stainless steel body. Built for Southern Aurora services. Built by Commonwealth Engineering Granville September 1961.*
There is also the HN and VHO which I do not think are power vans either.
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TE2815, They also have a second HN out the back, 2 EHOs, an SHO, HFT, HKL, HX, HC, HCX, HS, 2 HFOs, 3 HFAs and a HLF. All of these are equiped with a guards compartment and no generator set, so you see, there just balancing things out . BTW TE2815, you are right neither the VHO ot HN have a generator set inside.
Cheers, and Raichase, nice pics.
Save Eveleigh from "progress".
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dalts 1985
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:41 pm
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| MrNathan wrote: | | Well, they do already have 3 other power vans...why they needed the PFZ from Eveleigh is a mystery...! |
I know they have 2x PHA's as seen on the 2007 Tamworth Country Music Train, one at each end of the consist, providing power on an alternating basis.
But what's the third Power car the RTM has Not including the PFZ, which, as stated brings it too a total of 4 powercars in the RTM Fleet.
| TE2815 wrote: | I know they have MHN 2365 from the Southern Aurora services. Built by Commonwealth Engineering Granville September 1961.*
*Text taken from NSWRTM website. |
Would be nice to see the MHN returned to service, it would surely be of help to the RTM on long distance S'thern Aurora Services as firstly: excess baggage storage, & secondly: as a rolling workshop/crew car facility to go with the LAN Sleeper, marked as Car K for staff use, only thing is, it will require two slight modifications to the carbody ends, that is installing a inter-carraige communication doorway & diapham at each end in the ends of the van to enable through access then the train is in motion, currently it would not be accessable from the rest of the tain, while in motion, due to the blank ends of the carbody structure
Of note, ARHS ACT has recently returned it's MHN to service for this exact purpose, eg Crew Car/On-board facilities storage & Excess baggage storage, they have I believe, also modifed the ends of the carbody structure, to incorporate a inter-carriage communication doorway & diapham at each end.
This aside it would help recreate the look of a full S'thern Aurora consist with a Power van at the front & brake van at the rear.
| TE2815 wrote: | | There is also the HN & VHO which I do not think are power vans either. |
The VHO is used as a rolling workshop & crew car.
The HN is used as the guards station on tours using the N Set (HN/RFN/CN) & FS Cars (& their various varients of the FS Cars: EFS, HFS, Ect...)
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MrNathan
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:21 am
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My apologies, I thought they had a PHS.
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TE2815
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:51 am
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From what i saw last week they have 3 x PHA and 1 x PHN Silver power vans.
Thanks heaps to ALL my friends on here.
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TE2815
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MrNathan
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:15 pm
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| 42101 wrote: | | From what i saw last week they have 3 x PHA and 1 x PHN Silver power vans. |
Ah thanks for that Greg. I knew, seeing that I am infallible, that I couldn't be wrong!
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dalts 1985
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:09 pm
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| 42101 wrote: | | From what I saw last week they have 3 x PHA and 1 x PHN Silver power vans. |
Interesting, I throught the only PHN in preservation & operational at that, was the one locaterd at ARHS ACT I must have been wrong then...
I know one PHN resides on the "SRA NSW Brake Down Train" along with a NAM & a LAN, stored out the back of Flamo Workshops in Ol' Syd. Town... Can be just seen stored up the headshunt thingy "out in the wilderness" (Theirs alot of over grown bushes around them) & a third PHN of course resides with GSR used as The Overdue's Power/Luggage van, the third MHN is meant to reside with GSR also, but too date I've never seen it once, including in the yards at KRPT ADL...
I take it the third PHA is non-serviceable
How many were built in total
Isn't their also 2 unserviceable ones based/located deep within the bowels of The LES also
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