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greenkayaker
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Comeng Gunzel
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:09 pm
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| alltrainzfan wrote: | | Huh? That's the Central Coast Line! We're talking about Blue Mountains Line crashes only. |
Most railfans seem the ignore the Blue Mountains line - this is sadly another such example of that 
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3foot6
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:16 pm
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That's a shame; a trip up to Katoomba/Lithgow is quite scenic and well worth the money.
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Comeng Gunzel
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:21 pm
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| 3foot6 wrote: | | That's a shame; a trip up to Katoomba/Lithgow is quite scenic and well worth the money. |
Agreed with you there 3foot6 - I went for a trip up there on Tuesday and it is a great ride. I prefer it to the trips to Gosford or Thirroul which are also quite scenic.
I think it attracts less interest as the only trains running up there in daylight hours are usually just coal trains or V sets. However the scenery is quite good for photography - it would be worth going up there to see the Indian Pacific.
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gordon_s1942
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:36 pm
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re photography of the IP over the mountains, there are several locations around Zig Zag and one very favoured area was just west of Marrangaroo Tunnel where the line crosses the old Mudgee road now Castlereigh Highway with the power station in the background.
The line descends from Wallerawang to the Cox's River Colliery line jct then rises quite steeply to the tunnel.
The curve of the line gives an good view of the whole train.
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NSWRTM123
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3foot6
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:41 pm
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| Somebody in the WWW wrote: | | 3foot6 wrote: | | That's a shame; a trip up to Katoomba/Lithgow is quite scenic and well worth the money. |
Agreed with you there 3foot6 - I went for a trip up there on Tuesday and it is a great ride. I prefer it to the trips to Gosford or Thirroul which are also quite scenic. |
I have done every line on the CityRail Network with my grandparents by my side, but that was many years ago.
From what I remember, the trip down the South Coast is just as scenic especially around the area around where you got that L Set shot.
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johnboy
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:52 am
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Thanks Joe for finding the photos. My father had similar ones that were in the local Blue Mountains Gazette, so they were only B&W.....
somewhere in a box in my shed....
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Bwana
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:49 am
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| Somebody in the WWW wrote: | | 3foot6 wrote: | | That's a shame; a trip up to Katoomba/Lithgow is quite scenic and well worth the money. |
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I think it attracts less interest as the only trains running up there in daylight hours are usually just coal trains or V sets. However the scenery is quite good for photography - it would be worth going up there to see the Indian Pacific. |
What puts me off is the lack of good spots for photography - spots with no trees or fences in the way, where you're roughly level with the train and can get a longer shot. Even on platforms you tend to end up with something like this:
That isn't to say there are NO spots, just not many.
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greenkayaker
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:40 pm
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There are some which can only be accessed with an Orange vest and a work permit.
Not that that will stop some.
Sir Greenkayaker of the Evil Empire of Lithgovia
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GrahamH
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:33 pm
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| nosecone wrote: | | trendy wrote: | I remember seeing this on the 6.30 news way back then. They had removed one of the damaged carriages already, but showed the other car that couldn't be moved by rail being rolled down the side of the embankment / mountain. Not sure how far it went down, but I remember it totalling a few trees on the way.
Can't remember how they recovered the carriage though. Was it by helicopter? I assume the location would have been pretty inaccessible. |
I saw it on the news too; the footage showed it wiping out massive trees on the way down. It ended up at the bottom of the valley ... I hiked down to it afterwards, on the following weekend. I have colour slides of the wreckage somewhere.
The PTC left it there but after a few months (?) the NP&WS demanded that it be gone. So the Army was brought in to lift it by Chinook. That was on the news too. |
I was nearly on that train, just for the railway interest. Went by road with the bloke I helping on a job the next morning because of helping him get organised. I have an idea that the carriage was still down the gully in April 1977 when I first moved to the mountains.
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 1:14 am
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Being a signaller who mainly works Springwood or Katoomba, I'm always interested in events like this on the BM line.
Were there any deaths in those early accidents listed in Comeng's first post?
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 3:04 am
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| trendy wrote: | | nosecone wrote: |
I saw it on the news too; the footage showed it wiping out massive trees on the way down. It ended up at the bottom of the valley ... I hiked down to it afterwards, on the following weekend. I have colour slides of the wreckage somewhere.
The PTC left it there but ater a few months (?) the NP&WS demanded that it be gone. So the Army was brought in to lift it by Chinook. That was on the news too. |
Somehow we've got to get hold of this footage. Hopefully it has been archived. We just need someone with contacts who can get it for us. I'll give it a go. I know someone at the ABC. |
I think that you'll find that in those days, the Chinooks were operated by the RAAF - note the RAAF logo on the helicopter.
DCF.8004 weighed around 47 tons and, like all double deck interurbans in those days, was an "U" set car. It needed to be cut into segments for its recovery as the fatality of a passenger in DCF.8004 meant that a coronial inquiry was necessary. The 46 class loco involved in the collision was 4623; its crew was charged with manslaughter, but they were exonerated at the subsequent trial.
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tbohlsennswssrg
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:12 pm
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What puts me off is the lack of good spots for photography - spots with no trees or fences in the way, where you're roughly level with the train and can get a longer shot. Even on platforms you tend to end up with something like this:
That isn't to say there are NO spots, just not many. |
There is a thing called a image editor to get rid of the OHW structures.
example: Adobe Photoshop
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Fred3801
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:23 pm
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| Timothy Bohlsen wrote: | There is a thing called a image editor to get rid of the OHW structures.
i.e Adobe Photoshop |
Umm, it's not that easy Tim.
Photoshop cannot fix everything, it's basically just good (when it comes to railway photography at least) if you want to improve the quality of your photos. Cloning/covering out the stanchions will just make it even dodgier then what you started with.
Anyway, that off the topic.... 
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Just kidding!
