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TheLoadedDog
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alltrainzfan
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hurstville1
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 5:52 pm
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42101
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1979
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:01 pm
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Great Photos Guys! Good to see we get V Set cars to play around with unlike them hot and cr@p Tulloch Cars.
But, anyone thought that this would be one of the first times that a V Set has ever been along the local lines at Petersham?
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Do Do Do Attention Passengers, the 9:17 Empty Train via the Eastern Subburbs and Illawarra line will now depart from platform 4. Please make your way to platform 4.
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42101
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:05 pm
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Kaine sorry to burst your buble mate but they have been up and down the local lines heaps of times when trackwork closes the other 4 lines  but i would say its the 1st time interurban cars have been into those sidings.
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biqua
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:13 pm
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Well, clearly Red7489 got there before me, but I have many similar shots for most of it ... same with ATF - will see what I can get online tonight. In the meantime I will give you this - pretty tough on these two doing all the shifting.
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alltrainzfan
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:13 pm
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Thanks 42101 - my camera phone is alright. It's a Sony Ericsson 2MP. Biqua has a photo with two workmen pushing the bogie while DIM 8020 is being shifted, so it looks as if the two workmen are able to push the carriage by themselves!
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42101
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:19 pm
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ATF / Biqua you will find that those two blokes are just aligning the bogie with the rails as the pushing of the car is done by a small pusher jack anchored to those holes in the lifting beam and pushing on the trolley underneath that a heavy jack is sitting on and lifting the carrige.
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biqua
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:57 pm
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| 42101 wrote: | | ATF / Biqua you will find that those two blokes are just aligning the bogie with the rails as the pushing of the car is done by a small pusher jack anchored to those holes in the lifting beam and pushing on the trolley underneath that a heavy jack is sitting on and lifting the carrige. |
I know ... was just having a bit of fun. Got some good piccies of the actual workings of the whole process ...
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FieldShunt74
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 7:24 pm
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Ooooo! The Glenbrook car of death at the college! Look kids, this is why you travel at restricted speed after passing a permissive signal at stop.
As useful a learning aid as it might be, I'm still a bit miffed that this pandering to the superstitious means one less serviceable car in an all too small fleet.
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TheLoadedDog
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 7:42 pm
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| FieldShunt74 wrote: | As useful a learning aid as it might be, I'm still a bit miffed that this pandering to the superstitious means one less serviceable car in an all too small fleet.
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Do you reckon that's it?
The vast majority of the people who travel in 8020 are (were) the general public. Probably only about 0.0001% of them would know or care. That leaves gunzels, drivers and guards. Gunzels probably wouldn't really care, or if they did it would be in an almost positive way out of curiosity or just to say "I've riden DIM 8020" (I would count myself in this group). So that brings us to drivers and guards - again, you probably have a lot who don't care (some who maybe don't even know, maybe), and the rest who don't work on interurbans). This brings us down to what - a handful of individuals? Isn't it just their tough noogies and they can be directed to operate the train?
Ockham's Razor suggests to me it might just be a coincidence, or 8020 was old and clapped out.
Still, if you're right FS74, they are indeed a bunch of saddos.
ETA: I am a little unsure why they decided on V cars at all though. I'd say a T would be more representative of the average car an emergency worker or rail trainee is likely to have to deal with in a crisis. Maybe an S set as these are older and more expendable. The only thing I can see about the V is the narrow doors, so if you can rescue punters out of a smoke-filled one of those, you can do it on anything.
Related question about Petersham: what on earth is the big f*ck-off Gaza-style fence for?
Humphrey! We're leaving!
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TE2815
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 7:44 pm
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Looks like they didn't trust the trackage to take the weight of the 48's or is their another reason why it appears the tullochs were loose shunted (by tractor) and why the V cars were lifted and pushed across rather than shunted in.
They way it looks to have been done must have taken a lot longer than if they had just shunted them with the locos.
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Thanks for the correction Greg!
