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42101
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Fred3801
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 12:39 pm
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Wow, awesome photos Simon and Andrew. 
It was funny to see what was happening when I rocked up. You can see that evereything was in mess but interesting to watch. I kind of wish I just poped up a little earlier.
Here are some of my shots.
  
Out with the Old
48130 shunts the Tullochs (with a dam pole in the way!)
  
The V sets carriages wait, with 4819
Got some more shots, but I'm saving them for a raining day 
Was nice to run into Simon (biqua) too. If anyone else just happen to be in the area taking shots too, it would be great to see them.
Edit: I just had a good read through the Thread now, I and forgot to about Red7489 and alltrainzfan. Cool photos 
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hornetfig
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 3:26 pm
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really have to say this exercise does strike me as a good example of the 'right way .. wrong way .. railway' adage...
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Somebody in the WWW
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 3:40 pm
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Great photos of all of the movement! I was on the 9:15 train to Newcastle and when I went past I was thinking "I should have just went here to take a look, stuff going north  ".
Sure looked strange seeing the Tullochs on the mainline!
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FieldShunt74
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 3:42 pm
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| hornetfig wrote: | | really have to say this exercise does strike me as a good example of the 'right way .. wrong way .. railway' adage... |
Seems pretty rational to me (not that this is any great recommendation to go on). For the amount of traffic coming and going (two cars each way every decade or so) it would be a waste to have a set of points in an otherwise uncluttered, concrete sleepered, superelevated stretch of track. So long as they don't go swapping the cars in and out too often, what they've done this weekend is probably cheaper and more practical.
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Fred3801
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 6:07 pm
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One more shot which I forgot about.
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TheLoadedDog
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TE2815
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nazarail
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 9:11 pm
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The points you are thinking of have long sinced removed, and to install a trailing set whould be too much work for what need to be done.
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TE2815
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RVX
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 9:54 pm
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| TE2815 wrote: | It surely must have been an easier exercise to have restored a set of points at the location. Have them booked out of use, clipped and spiked then book them in when something of this nature needs to be done then book them out again. They could even be listed as "non-commissioned points" which get booked in and out of use as required.
With a little effort the points could have been installed at the other end of Petersham platform and been trailing points making them even safer for local line traffic passing over them when they are booked out of use. |
I have to agree with Fieldshunt74 here. To install a set of points (and a crossing and checkrails and all the other components which make up a turnout) would be a big job. Turnouts usually work best in a zero super situation yet this section of track is a curve.
Not only is there time and expense associated with the installation, but turnouts require a lot more ongoing maintenance (even when booked out) than plain track. They create a weak point and seem to attract/create defects. Crossing noses need to be monitored and ground regularly, checkrails need to be monitored and shimmed. Turnouts in general have a huge number of bolts/studs which are all potential points of concern. As well as physical maintenance/repairs, there is also the added and ongoing cost of inspections. Turnouts require a lot more attention inspection-wise than plain track.
I certainly wouldn't think that the College of Knowledge would generate enough traffic to warrant cutting into a nice bit of track and giving it all the headaches involved with turnouts.
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tsgsjm
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:16 am
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Its only for training, which doesnt rate too high on the agenda. The cheapest option will always be used.
There was no rush for them to finish anyway, as the bridge work at Erskineville Road, had the suburban and local closed all weekend. That was one big crane on that bridge.
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Electra
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 12:05 pm
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It's amazing that while attention is being given to DIM.8020 (formerly DIM.8067) and the two Tulloch trailers, very little mention has been given to DMT.9204, which was involved in both (1976 and 1999) fatal Glenbrook collisions - as lead car DCF.8005 of the westbound train in 1976 and second car DMT.9204 of the eastbound train in 1999.
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biqua
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 12:40 pm
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Unfortunately I wasn't around for the transfer of DMT9204, but it's certainly unique. Correct me if I'm wrong, which has a high probability, but isn't it the last of the first series DD interurbans (the rest being scrapped), the last surviving proper conversion to a trailer (covering driver's side window and panto recess, and all nosecone light fittings), and the only trailer so far with the Intercity livery (the rest being blank except the single blue goose)?
This may also be a good time to ask - what to all the letters in the interurban codes actually mean?
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Bwana
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 1:50 pm
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| biqua wrote: | | This may also be a good time to ask - what to all the letters in the interurban codes actually mean? |
I was always of the impression the first two letters are ALWAYS "DI", meaning "Double deck" and "Interurban" respectively, and the last was either M for motor or T for trailer.
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