Campania Derailment

derwentparkjunc · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:21 pm

Any details on this? - reported as occurring on Wednesday evening.

Cheers
DPJ

austrain · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:54 pm

2101 yet again, serious problems with this loco. Mr rail regulator will not be impressed. Maybe PN will sell her off cheap: as is where is!

chriswoo · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:12 pm

How long did 2101 last in service before she went "bush" again, 3 weeks?

These derailments do (at least in my mind) pose some interesting questions about liabilities under the current "track owner", and "rail operator" setup.

Under the old system where PN managed track and rolling stock as one entity you can only imagine that the cost's associated with a derailment were contained in house, BUT now say if the track was found to be the cause of the derailment would "WE" (Tasmanian tax payers) be required to foot some or if not all the clean up and repair bill....

Could a rail operator sue the state for costs if it were found that a track malfunction caused the accident?

Could the state sue a rail operator for damage to the track caused by a certain locomotive (that's painted blue and yellow and has 2101 on it) continually jumping off the rails?

Would someone like Boyer / Nystar be able to recover a $$ figure from the state if the track was found to be at fault and that resulted in product being damaged or a delayed delivery.

I think in a road sense, if you say, hit traffic light, and your proved to be at fault the state can try and recover costs...

Just some thoughts Guy's and Girls,
Love to hear what you think,

Cheers
CHRISWOO..

Why is it that I alway's get the pink clinkers?? I hate pink clinkers...

BP4417 · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:55 am

I think the answer is pretty simple. If your at fault you are liable.

Z1NorthernProgress2110 · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:09 am

Well, what was the Rail Regulator's out come on ZR2101's derailments?
Also, have they ever thought of putting a different set of bogie's under it and see if the derailment's still happen.

As for the comments Mr Woo, that is an interesting scenario. I suppose the rail operator could sue the government over track conditions. Also, if i was a user of the rail network and my stock was damaged, i would ask the hard questions to PN and the government.

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chriswoo · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:28 pm

And here is 2101 at Lowdina...

Why is it that I alway's get the pink clinkers?? I hate pink clinkers...

DRR_Fireman · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:30 pm

Surely they must be starting to think its more trouble than it's worth, old 2101.

You reckon they'd let me take it home if I gave them a carton? Cool

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austrain · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:59 pm

maybe 2 cartons and a bottle of wild turkey!

be scratching there heads again.

roo · Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:59 am

[quote=Chris]Could a rail operator sue the state for costs if it were found that a track malfunction caused the accident? [/quote]

Given Pathetic Irrational's current track record (excuse the pun Rolling Eyes

), the fact that the Tas Gov has only recently taken ownership of the track, the same track that PNT previously owned and failed to keep in a satisfactory condition, and that PNT are going to p*** off in a couple of months anyway because "it's too hard"...

I would assume PNT wouldn't have a chance. Laughing

But if freight on that train was damaged or the derailment caused significant financial penalty to the customer, then yes, I would be seeking some sort of compensation.

I think from memory there have been four, five (?) derailments this year? Certainly it's the second derailment in a month. Shocked

How many has ZR2101 been involved in?

austrain · Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 2:56 pm

Have lost count, thinking around 4 - 5 involving 2101? I can recount 3 of them, but has been more than that.

Tascop · Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:07 am

4 I believe. At Ulverstone, Hagley, Parhatta (if that is how you spell it) and now this one. Can't think of any more

austrain · Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:14 am

it also came off at between boyer & b/water. but now i think about it, that may have been before it got its rebuilt bogies. So may be only 4.

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austrain · Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:54 pm

2101 was seen back at E/T on saturday.

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Z1NorthernProgress2110 · Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:47 pm

Stored for the rest of the year chief?

Cheers Damien Smith
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austrain · Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:25 pm

not sure mate, just saw it sitting outside the quickfix on sat. Might depend if they can work out why it derails or not. maybe they could melt it down for metal for the new bell bay bridge Idea

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