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derwentparkjunc Locomotive Fireman   Joined: Sep 03, 2006
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:59 pm
I note in the recently released state budget an approx $1/4 million allocation into study of LR potential for Hobart.
Can anyone elaborate?
Obviously the choice of terms of reference/assesment criteria etc. for this study will have a large bearing on whether this has any chance of being favourable.

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GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways   Joined: Apr 13, 2004
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:10 pm
It would be good if they would follow Adelaide's proposed example of traintrams.



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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:40 am
Honestly, I'd ignore it. I think just about every city in Australia over 50,000 people has a light rail study in the archieves. Just a fashionable thing done by many that sounds great until they see the cost. Only Adelaide after years of procrastion has actually done something.

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drwaddles In need of a breath mint   Joined: Aug 16, 2006
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:58 am
A consultancy job of that size should go to public tender, so if you ask nicely enough (or work in the industry) you could get yourself a copy of the brief.



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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:18 pm
drwaddles wrote:
A consultancy job of that size should go to public tender



Should, but need not. There are a number of outs in the instructions even for amounts like this



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drwaddles In need of a breath mint   Joined: Aug 16, 2006
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:35 pm
I'm not sure what you mean by "a number of outs in the intructions"?



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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:43 pm
Although the Treasurers Instructions by which all Tasmanian Government procurement must be carried out, says that something of this cost should go to public tender, there are a number of ways allowed by the instructions that means this may not actually happen



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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:47 pm
That makes more sense, thanks tasrail.

Btw, are the briefs for public tenders provided online in Tasmania?



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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:03 pm
The list of publicly advertised tenders is at http://www.tenders.tas.gov.au but it seems to be at the agency's discretion as to whether the full documentation is available for download (to registered users etc) or not. ln the case of DIERs current railway tenders all that's is available is the one sentence from the newspaper advertisement.



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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:43 am
RTT_Rules wrote:
Honestly, I'd ignore it. I think just about every city in Australia over 50,000 people has a light rail study in the archieves. Just a fashionable thing done by many that sounds great until they see the cost. Only Adelaide after years of procrastion has actually done something.

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Shane

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574M White Guru   Joined: Mar 15, 2006
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:30 am
GeoffreyHansen wrote:
It would be good if they would follow Adelaide's proposed example of traintrams.


I know that is not a typo, Geoffrey!

Can you elaborate a bit more on "traintrams"?
 
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GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways   Joined: Apr 13, 2004
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:05 pm
I meant tramtrains, see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tram-train



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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:54 pm
GeoffreyHansen wrote:
I meant tramtrains, see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tram-train


If Hobart was to actually get a LR system, certaily something that can use the existing HR corridore up to Bridgewater would be the go to help get it off the ground cheaply. ie maybe start with two routes from same stop at CBD, one to Casino via Uni or vice versa what ever works, the other nth bound via street running and onto main with sufficent passing loops installed. Reading the above link, freights still allowed, not just at the same time.

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