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Darwin Rail Link to be sold

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Shacks Ghanzel Ghanzel
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:49 pm
Hendo,
Some people here are in the know. Under comercial in confidence people can not say certin things, yes, we all know who would be interested, we all have our opinions as to who will get it. If you read the buisness news you will see the whispers, some of us choose to not say what is in them as we might know more to the story.
All I can say is the banks meet Monday. They will look at all the offers and accept the one or ones that are in their best intrests. Some of us know who the front runners are, but under the C-I-C, leagally can not say anything. Who knows, the banks might not go with who thoes in the know know as the front runners.

Soon, all will be revealed.  
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574M White Guru   Joined: Mar 15, 2006
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:09 pm
Yes, you are right, Shacks.

Return on investment is the bottom line for banks, and then CYA with regard to oustanding monies owing from their assets.
 
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Hendo Train Controller   Joined: Jun 11, 2006
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:52 pm
Wow Shacks,

Hhahahah, you guys crack me up! So you are inside the loop? Privy to Commercial-In-Confidence infomation and not just another gunzel! With such knowledge, what are you doing living and "working" in Darwin and spending time posting here, instead of living in Melbourne, Sydney, New York or London using your business contacts? We shall have to report you to the ASIC. Can't have you trying to get a trade advantage out of your insider knowledge! Laughing

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Hendo
 
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mjja Sir Nigel Gresley   Joined: Jan 13, 2003
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:23 pm
Hendo, do you have any idea who Shacks is and who else he knows? If not, shut up.

Follow my excellent example - just keep watching this thread patiently until there is an announcement. Then, if you really must have a go at Shacks, ask him whether he was right or wrong. But until then, go take a walk around the block.



Happy Gunzelling and remember, "Go by rail!"

Michael Angelico
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luznug Train Controller   Joined: Jan 22, 2005
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:01 am
mjja wrote:
Hendo, do you have any idea who Shacks is and who else he knows? If not, shut up.

Follow my excellent example - just keep watching this thread patiently until there is an announcement. Then, if you really must have a go at Shacks, ask him whether he was right or wrong. But until then, go take a walk around the block.


Mija we live in a democracy so if a story is in a news section online or even if it is only whisper no one really cares too much about a slow return industry that only gets green votes anyway.
If we're talking about Real World Concerns like Fear (US) and Greed (US) you may well have a case but Railpage Australia™ must leak tales.

We all know this rail line had to be built but why Freightlink?
QR should buy it so they own all NT Qld while EL Zorro own SA Vic. Love dream dream dream Love
 
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nutbagg Assistant Commissioner   Joined: Feb 11, 2007
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:12 am
mjja wrote:
Hendo, do you have any idea who Shacks is and who else he knows? If not, shut up.

Follow my excellent example - just keep watching this thread patiently until there is an announcement. Then, if you really must have a go at Shacks, ask him whether he was right or wrong. But until then, go take a walk around the block.
I agree with you Hendo if you haven't got anything to say don't sit on here going I know this CIC stuff but I can't tell you! You hear a few rumors thrown around Berrimah and that's it? Moderator or not you're a tosser acting like this. If you know so much which group is BBI in with?



Mate, if that loco pulls as hard as you do, it'd move anything.
I'd still rather have an ALCo.
 
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Shacks Ghanzel Ghanzel
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:43 am
Jesus, we are a "I want to know" bunch.
Leagally I am not able to say who the new owner is, that is because I do not know who the new owner is, the banks have not decided and they will not be telling me before they tell you. I very much doubt they will be calling me to make the announcement on their behalf.
I have sent messages to other people who have heard from different sources and we have the same answers, they too are not in the position to make an announcement.
As for the whispers, read the business papers, each company who have submitted a bid has put their views out there into the media. It is not hard to find out who has bidded.
Some people have made a list of who they think will get it and posted it. I am not going to sayhow accurate they are.

Have you ever thought that the information I know could be totally wrong ?
Maybe I don't want you getting your hopes up that Question Question Question Question Question Question will win.


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In time you will have your answers, so will I.  
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bingley hall Chief Commissioner   Joined: Nov 09, 2005
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:19 am
nutbagg wrote:
If you know so much which group is BBI in with?


Well logic would dictate they would be in with whatever vehicle QR is using for their bid, given that together they have what appears to be a reasonable working relationship in the West.

However in true 1984 fashion it could be anyone. Yesterday's enemy is today's friend and vice versa?

And BBI are hardly standing on solid ground at the moment.

Bing



Life is just a bowl of All Bran...you wake up every morning and it's there
 
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nutbagg Assistant Commissioner   Joined: Feb 11, 2007
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:39 am
Shacks wrote:
Jesus, we are a "I want to know" bunch.
Leagally I am not able to say who the new owner is, that is because I do not know who the new owner is, the banks have not decided and they will not be telling me before they tell you. I very much doubt they will be calling me to make the announcement on their behalf.
I have sent messages to other people who have heard from different sources and we have the same answers, they too are not in the position to make an announcement.
As for the whispers, read the business papers, each company who have submitted a bid has put their views out there into the media. It is not hard to find out who has bidded.
Some people have made a list of who they think will get it and posted it. I am not going to sayhow accurate they are.

Have you ever thought that the information I know could be totally wrong ?
Maybe I don't want you getting your hopes up that Question Question Question Question Question Question will win.


Rolling Eyes
In time you will have your answers, so will I.
Yes good one. Who is BBI with? Its not QR from what I've heard but then there is almost no information in the public as to who is bidding other than a few spin articles about Toll/ Scott's and QR. It's all very closed shop if you ask me.

Run with rumors, what locos could be appearing on Freightlink trains soon?



Mate, if that loco pulls as hard as you do, it'd move anything.
I'd still rather have an ALCo.
 
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nutbagg Assistant Commissioner   Joined: Feb 11, 2007
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:04 am
Shacks wrote:
Hendo,
Some people here are in the know. Under comercial in confidence people can not say certin things, yes, we all know who would be interested, we all have our opinions as to who will get it. If you read the buisness news you will see the whispers, some of us choose to not say what is in them as we might know more to the story.
All I can say is the banks meet Monday. They will look at all the offers and accept the one or ones that are in their best intrests. Some of us know who the front runners are, but under the C-I-C, leagally can not say anything. Who knows, the banks might not go with who thoes in the know know as the front runners.

Soon, all will be revealed.
Commercial in confidence http://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11341198-0-asc-s135.htm
Posted: 15 Jul 2008 15:39
Shacks wrote:
If what I have been told is true, SCT will need all the G's back in about 3 months. Lets just wait and see.
Yes very good.



Mate, if that loco pulls as hard as you do, it'd move anything.
I'd still rather have an ALCo.
 
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Shacks Ghanzel Ghanzel
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:09 am
.... and if you read further you will see various reasons why SCT will need their G's back in September. They are expecting an increase in cargo to the west in the lead up to Christmas.  
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nutbagg Assistant Commissioner   Joined: Feb 11, 2007
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:59 pm
Shacks wrote:
.... and if you read further you will see various reasons why SCT will need their G's back in September. They are expecting an increase in cargo to the west in the lead up to Christmas.
Rubbish. 15 SCT's give them the capacity to run 7 trains a week to Perth, they are currently only running 2 melbournes and a parkes train on a regular basis with two extra melbournes (1MP9 & 5MP9) run on a 'as required' basis so even with 4+1 (=5) there is capacity for two more trains. I take it that you are implying that SCT are going to buy Freightlink according to your sources; as the sale is supposed to be finalised in September.



Mate, if that loco pulls as hard as you do, it'd move anything.
I'd still rather have an ALCo.
 
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:23 pm
whos taking over Freightlink



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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:41 pm
Q4004 wrote:
whos taking over Freightlink


Nothing announced as yet

Watch this space Wink



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Tony
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bingley hall Chief Commissioner   Joined: Nov 09, 2005
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:42 am
Down to a two-horse race:

1. GWA

2. Asciano/Macquarie

SCT no longer in the running.

Were BBI ever in there? Current rumour is that they have 100% (not 50% as reported elsewhere) of their share of WestNet on the market.

Bing



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