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Maikha Not a gunzel <s>Not</s> a gunzel
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:26 pm
Hi all

I must admit, this magazine series did get my attention and interest at first, mainly as a means of getting into building metal model locomotives and O Scale, and be able to spread my cost out over a long while and have a 101 accompanying the parts on how to build it.

However, upon looking at the fine print, looks as though I'll just get the first issue like everyone else, and continue dreaming about being able to build whitemetal locos Sad



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David Peters Minister for Railways   Joined: Nov 29, 2005
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:28 pm
I was reading in a British railway magazine about this and the mistakes and errors in the magazine's are beyond belief, "probably all written by a journalist with nothing better to do", it was their words not mine! Cool



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Poath Junction Deputy Commissioner   Joined: Nov 23, 2005
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:29 am
Serviceton_Kev wrote:
Do they supply a motor as one of the parts? Or do you have to motorise it yourself? It would be a shame to have it a static display for all that money Shocked


A brief flash on the TV states "motor, gearbox and track available separately". On the bright side this version does include the wheels, unlike the original direct-from-manufacturer DJH version.



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Maikha Not a gunzel <s>Not</s> a gunzel
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 6:19 pm
I went and bought Issue 1 for $1.50 today to see what the fuss was about, as it comes with a Getting Started DVD.

Of note however, is quite a funny error I picked up, which has also been widely posted on the Pommy forums.


(Shot taken out of DVD)



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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 6:29 pm
Maikha wrote:
Of note however, is quite a funny error I picked up, which has also been widely posted on the Pommy forums.


Does the voiceover say anything like "LNER briefly experimented with Cab Forward designs...."



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David Peters Minister for Railways   Joined: Nov 29, 2005
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 7:16 pm
If they make errors like these in issue one I wonder what will happen further down the pile, probably the wheels where the boiler should go or something! Laughing Laughing



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Somebody in the WWW Comeng Gunzel   Joined: Oct 08, 2004
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 7:40 pm
Using XE.com to convert the total cost of the set in the UK of £617.26 pounds (from this forum), that would convert to $1,283.25 in Aussie dollars at the moment, versus the $1850 total cost of buying all of them here Idea

If you were able to get parts sent over from the UK (if the earlier ones were still available!) it would still work out as being more than $500 cheaper than buying it here when you include postage, if you were intent on doing it this way.

My personal experience with these partworks sets from newsagents is that you only get one small part in an issue, some of which probably only cost a few cents to manufacture. $14.95 every week for that? I'll pass Cool

I would also find the possibility of the last ones being discontinued off-putting, if the sales were dropping off a bit. Would be awful to have a near-complete locomotive, except for some crucial parts Evil or Very Mad



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pecksniff Beginner   Joined: Aug 01, 2008
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:56 pm
As a pommie living in the Uk, am up to part 31 through my
newsagent sales .. Smile

Not that part numbers are in any order, bits of this and that
still waiting for more tender wheels etc... Confused

Book 1 gives you the wrong information on the cab windows
refer to book 10, or visit www.rmweb.co.uk find the post Partwork
and look through about 45 pages of some not and some useful pages

I would like to thank my good mate in queensland for getting me another
part 1 because of the window mistake.... Very Happy

another useful site is ebay, the amount of people selling up is
on the increase..hope this helps..you may find a good pommie
mate useful in providing backup copies if yours go astray..

Have a goodun

Pecksniff...
 
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 12:27 am
Not that Im going to get one..Im 1/4" not a 7'er. I read a few forums on this loco and a very short precis is..
It is stricly speaking not the normal DJH A3 corridor kit. It is based on that kit and indeed DJH are supplying many of the parts and indeed the instructions..but it is NOT the same kit !! The French company doing the parts issues are having some parts made in a similar vogue to the DJH.(but by another company ) and they are not always the same. The one you see on the ad is a real standard DJH kit...and is assembled slightly differently. No one has assembled the magazine loco in its entirity as all parts havent been made to date ( according to UK forums). The magazine version uses a molded boiler as opposed to the normal kit I believe.
Point being..I suggest you all read the UK forums as I have before laying out your cash.. Still..for not a lot of money some O scalers can have some roundhouse junk !! Smile
 
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David Peters Minister for Railways   Joined: Nov 29, 2005
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 3:13 pm
As has been said if it does not sell well it can be discontinued at the drop of a hat, we had this happen numerous times when I was with G&G, if it does not sell they will not perservere with it just because you are making the model and it usually happens towards the end of the series and you could be left with a part completed model, happy modelling!

Oh one thing I should say though is that it would just stop very discreetly, there would be no warning or anything like that, you just cannot get the next issue and your newsagent could be as much in the dark about it as you are! Cool



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Bigwato Deputy Commissioner   Joined: Oct 06, 2006
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:57 pm
Well I am not going to bother with it now. I was going to look at it, but I think I will give it a miss after all these comments! Thanks guys.  
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4001firstdiesel Locomotive Fireman   Joined: May 11, 2008
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:19 pm
Have just gone onto xe.com and done the calculations. Total cost adds up to be 1189 GBP (approximately 2,519AU)
 
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:46 pm
Well, I've got 2 copies of issue one. Now to learn how to solder brass Razz

I think thats one good thing about it, it's a cheap introduction into soldering brass if you get a few copies of the first issue. Apparently issue two (the footplate) will be 8.95... Looks like it's not brass as well...

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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:07 pm
The usual arrangement with these type of part publication's is that the first part is real cheap, to sucker you in and from part 2 it sells for the normal price, in this case I think it is $14.95 an issue! Cool



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toxation Deputy Commissioner   Joined: Apr 25, 2005
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:42 pm
Such a pity it's not an H0 scale one. Oh well, will stick to VR for now.




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