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Chris Brownbill
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:02 pm
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| NR77 wrote: | | Yep the teal livery is definately the best livery the sprinters ever went into. |
Err - how can I say this? .............No.
But on the other hand, it wasn't the worst either. The Hamburglar beats it.
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alstom_888m
Chief Commissioner
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Location: Craigieburn Suburban Railway Line, Melbourne
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:30 pm
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I loved that old teal livery. Why teal though? Why not V/Line Orange? Did they want to tie it to PTC rather than V/Line?
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wongm
Minister for Railways
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Location: Geelong, Victoria
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:49 pm
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| kuldalai wrote: | | The maximum number of Sprinters that can be operated as one consist driven from the leading car is eight (8 ) |
Oops - they all blur into one after a while! 
Newsrail 1996 has a photo of a 8 car lashup, on an up Albury pass. The Weekday Sprinter service from Melbourne to Albury commenced 16.9.1996 and on Sunday 22.9.1996 they used two 5 car lashups to run free Albury - Wodonga - Chiltern shuttles.
| alstom_888m wrote: | | Why not V/Line Orange? Did they want to tie it to PTC rather than V/Line? |
The PTC was formed in 1989 from the Metropolitan Transit Authority (sparks, trams and buses) and the State Transport Authority (V/Line). Vicsig says the 'double arrow' logo was introduced in 1992, the Sprinters came from 1993. I recall reading there was a bit of an 'identity crisis' at the time, and looking at those dates, it seems to make sense.
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r707
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Location: Riding on the back of a freight in a Teacup ZMF
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:41 pm
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AFAIK as wongm says, V/Line had an identity crisis. They didn't want the new stock in orange as the new VLP livery was in development, so a temporary one was chosen. I believe the decision to go with PTC colours was supported by the fact that Sprinters were intended to do a lot of shorthaul work within the Met system anyway (Sunbury/Melton/Cragieburn (Donnybrook)/Stony Point)
Confucius Say man who fart in church sits in his own pew
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sas85
Deputy Commissioner
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:54 am
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I am going to have to go against the masses and say the V/Line red looks better....
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4705-44201NB
Chief Commissioner
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:53 am
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sas85 that is the beauty of a public forum that everyone should be allowed to express thier own preferences.
and just for you here's another red one although the quality isn't great it is slightly blurred but I am still posting it as its 7019 the only to be scrapped. Here it is seen passing through Tighes Hill heading from Goninan to Port Waratah towed by 48120.
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vlinecars
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:58 pm
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| r707 wrote: | | AFAIK as wongm says, V/Line had an identity crisis. They didn't want the new stock in orange as the new VLP livery was in development, so a temporary one was chosen. I believe the decision to go with PTC colours was supported by the fact that Sprinters were intended to do a lot of shorthaul work within the Met system anyway (Sunbury/Melton/Cragieburn (Donnybrook)/Stony Point) |
Sure was an identity crisis going on!
V/Line timetables effective from 22nd August 1993 (after the culling of Bairnsdale/Dimboola/Cobram/Leongatha/Mildura services) were released in the PTC colours of teal and gold/yellow.
The current Moe Station, opened in June 1992, also received PTC signage like that of suburban stations (teal writing with yellow underline), as opposed to orange signs.
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vlocity160
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:22 pm
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The current Moe Station, opened in June 1992, also received PTC signage like that of suburban stations (teal writing with yellow underline), as opposed to orange signs. |
Sunbury had PTC singage as both platform signs and a sign at the intersection of Brook and Evans streets.
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Lance-Fieldline
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:25 pm
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Geez, an historical piece about sprinters, I remember when the DRC's were new and didn't work all that well 
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T395_rules_the_line
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:42 am
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gees these pics bring back memories of when they were first released.
My dad RIP rode on them and bagged the crap out of them.
now there being used for there intended use on the stoney point line.
I reckon they look better in the v/line maroon the first livery looked not nice.
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Heihachi_73
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:52 pm
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It could be worse, at least the Stony Point ones weren't stickered in Connex blue and yellow, although it would look somewhat interesting as a PS job...
A tangerine Sprinter would have definitely looked strange. Come to think of it, tangerine and silver (stainless steel) DRCs also looked a bit strange compared to the classic N sets.
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vlinecars
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:33 pm
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I've actually got an artists impression for the Sprinters back from 1990/1991 of one in green and tangerine; will have to try and find it and scan it sometime to post here!
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wongm
Minister for Railways
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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:10 pm
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| vlinecars wrote: | | I've actually got an artists impression for the Sprinters back from 1990/1991 of one in green and tangerine; will have to try and find it and scan it sometime to post here! |
I think you scanned it in a while ago and emailed it to me. 
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Deanodriver
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wolfpac
Chief Commissioner
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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:16 pm
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Almost looks like a V/Lo mixed with a Sprinter... And a bit like an Explorer car!
Still, they certainly needed more orange and green on them! 
Wolfpac
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