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bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: On a freight train to crazy town

East West services will be disrupted for a few days following the derailment of SCTs 1MP9 service at the west end of Mt Christie loop last night.

Derailment occurred approx 2130hrs - 12 vehicles derailed and on their sides.

Bing

 
deve Assistant Commissioner

Location: Rosstown

FYI

Derailment cuts east-west rail link

There has been a train derailment in the far west of South Australia.

A goods train travelling from Melbourne to Perth derailed near Mount Christie, between Tarcoola and Cook, at about 9:30pm ACST yesterday.

The Australian Transport Safety Bureau has started an investigation.

The Rail Track Corporation says 12 of wagons derailed just before a loop section where the train was supposed pass another travelling in the other direction.

The oncoming train was stopped.

The Corporation says there were no injuries from the derailment.

It says about 300 metres of track is damaged. The rail line between Port Augusta and Kalgoorlie in Western Australia will be closed until repairs are done.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/09/02/2352948.htm?section=justin

cheers

Deve

 
Q4004 Chief Commissioner

Location: Thornlie

what were the locos involved

EDIT:

NR54/NR73 are stuck in WA along with EL55/EL58

1AP8 arrived today and should be held in Kewdale until the line is reopened

 
AUSqrTRANS Station Master

Suggestions are services resuming on Saturday - Any confirmation to this?

 

Location: Banned

Funny thing is trains are still running in both directions.

 
AUSqrTRANS Station Master

Trains still running? Are you sure?

Have the ARTC got there yet?

I thought they weren't due til 13:00hours SA time and I would've thought nobody could get through until they allow it?

 
David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: Inspector 71

That probably depends on where you are, anything not affected by this derailment will still run so everything will look normal to a point except there will be no trains to or from WA until it is patched up!

Trains to Darwin are not affected by this derailment at all except for some trains that are now sitting in loops out there awaiting clearance, if there are any that is! 8)

 
xr554 Chief Commissioner

Location: Ashton S.A.

what were the locos involved

EDIT:

NR54/NR73 are stuck in WA along with EL55/EL58

1AP8 arrived today and should be held in Kewdale until the line is reopened

- Q4004

SCT's 008 and 010 i think.

 
TE2815 Minister for Railways

Location: Mission control Minto or Thirlmere

ARTC Press Release

The incident has closed the line between Port Augusta and Kalgoorlie. It is too premature at this stage to estimate when the track will re-open.

- A user

 
AUSqrTRANS Station Master

Yeah - That sounds like the ARTC covering their bums - Insiders are suggesting Friday Now

 
bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: On a freight train to crazy town

Yeah - That sounds like the ARTC covering their bums - Insiders are suggesting Friday Now

- AUSqrTRANS

Covering their bums from what exactly..?

Bing

 
AUSqrTRANS Station Master

Lets pretend they give an indication that Thursday it'll be ready, but Thursday comes and it isn't. Customers would then be upset that it is taking longer than expected.

So instead of giving a time frame they suggest something as plain as "ITS TOO PREMATURE TO TELL"

 
crisfitz Chief Commissioner

Location: Enroute somewhere

When i was a driver out there, we always went by this idea.

Get the first roughy for the openning, add 24 hours, then you'd come out pretty close. Confused

Always seemed to work out about right Very Happy

 
AUSqrTRANS Station Master

Yea - I've learnt to add 24 hours onto anything these rail providers tell me.

Although I've heard a whisper about one provider running trains daily to Adelaide to store up, and go out on Friday - Fingers crossed thay don't screw this exercise up otherwise I gotta start storing boxes somewhere.

 
3foot6 Minister for Railways

Location: Unknown

Have the new locomotives been damaged?

 
bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: On a freight train to crazy town

Have the new locomotives been damaged?

- 3foot6

No.

Track currently not expected to be opened until Saturday afternoon.

Approx 2.2km of track has been damaged on the east side of the loop - can be traversed at 20kmh.  

West end points severely damaged and until replaced Mt Christie closed as a crossing loop

Bing

 
42101 Banned

Location: Banned

Bing thanks for the thread and updates. Very Happy

 
dalts 1985 Banned

Location: Banned

Is it just me, or does SCT seem to be having quite a few: pranks bangs seperations of trains (read broken draw gear) & in the dirts (read derailments) of lateish over the past 2 years...  ConfusedNeutral

 

Location: Banned

It is mainly because there trains a to heavy for the wagons they are using.

 
bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: On a freight train to crazy town

Is it just me, or does SCT seem to be having quite a few: pranks bangs seperations of trains (read broken draw gear) & in the dirts (read derailments) of lateish over the past 2 years...  ConfusedNeutral

- dalts 1985

If anything it has reduced substantially in the last two years. Incidence of broken draw gear was high in the past, especially in the Adelaide Hills but changes in rolling stock maintainers and a refurbished and more modern wagon fleet means that over the last couple of years, such incidents have been infrequent.

As for derailments such as this one, which is more than likely to be a failed bearing/ screwed journal - though we will have to wait for the results of the various investigations before knowing anything for sure - on a pro rata basis I would say that SCT are no worse than other operators.

Bing

 
AUSqrTRANS Station Master

I concur with Bings! PN and QR have had they're fair share of "Oh-Ohs" over the last two years

 
Q4004 Chief Commissioner

Location: Thornlie

A list of cancelled trains due to the derailment

Correct me if im wrong

PS6

PS7

SP5

SP6

SP7

AP8

PA8

MP4

MP5

MP7

MP9

PM9

 
freightgate Chief Commissioner

Location: Albury, New South Wales

Yeah - That sounds like the ARTC covering their bums - Insiders are suggesting Friday Now

- AUSqrTRANS

Anyone prepared to speculate on the cause?

--Bill

 
freightgate Chief Commissioner

Location: Albury, New South Wales

further information from ARTC also released today:

At approximately 9:30pm Monday night a train from Melbourne bound for Western Australia derailed on the East West rail line near Mount Christie, between Tarcoola and Cook in South Australia.

The intermodal train carrying goods to Perth was proceeding into a passing loop in order to cross with a train travelling in the opposite direction.  

Approximately 20m before the loop, 12 of the train’s wagons derailed, falling onto their sides and blocking the line.

The oncoming train was immediately halted.

Australian Rail Track Corporation recovery and assessment teams are on site and will determine the full extent of the damage to the rail corridor and the amount of repairs needed.  

Early assessments indicate that approximately 300 metres of track have been damaged and cranes will be needed to recover the fallen wagons.

The Australian Transport Safety Bureau has also been requested to attend and their investigation team is also travelling to the site.

The incident has closed the line between Port Augusta and Kalgoorlie.  It is too premature at this stage to estimate when the track will re-open.

There were no injuries associated with this incident.

Last updated: 03 Sep 2008

 
AUSqrTRANS Station Master

Speculate on the cause? It's SCT - No Speculation Needed!  Very Happy

Nah I honestly believe its they're Over-rated ancient equipment - but thats a rough guess from me as I don't know too much about they're wagons (I'm only passing on the whispers I hear!)  Confused

 

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