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Rebuilding/ Modifying Locomotives

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nutbagg Assistant Commissioner   Joined: Feb 11, 2007
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:07 am
M636C wrote:
nutbagg wrote:
Gazza wrote:
12CSVT wrote:
The 'BU's dont really count as cabless locos as they are engine-less slugs. Again, another American concept that didn't really catch on here - although maybe because the 'BU's were created for the wrong reason - ie. working trains. In the U.S. they seem to restrict them to heavy shunting as master+slave units. I am not aware of slugs being used in the 'States in what they term "road service".

The 'BU's were a bit of a waste of 4 good '600's. They may have been more useful themselves as cabless 'B' units (or slaves).

Cheers,
SZ


How hard would it be to rebuild the BU's with a new (seconhand) engine?
An 8 or 12 cylinder 7FDL would be a possability.
A V16 251plus engine would be a far better idea... Twisted Evil


I guess you would really have to want a locomotive to rebuild the BUs. They are probably best forgotten, depeding on how much the frames were madified when ballasted as slug units.

Of course GTSA have a few spare 16-251 Plus engines removed from the withdrawn Robe units. I'm told they had a lot of problems with cracked heads, so a standard 16-251 might be a better bet, particularly if you are happy with 3000 to 3300 HP.

M636C
Merely an academic exercise! How about extending the frame and fitting a V18 instead? I just want a bigger, noiser ALCo to burn the Hills down! Very Happy
Pressman is right though it would be a huge amount of work digging out the concrete ballast but you never know seeing as the RL's are dead in the water they may feel inspired to tackle something else as equally stupid.


Mate, if that loco pulls as hard as you do, it'd move anything.
I'd still rather have an ALCo.
 
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nic Chief Train Controller   Joined: May 19, 2004
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:59 pm
IS anyone in a position to be able to update us on the 48 class remanufacturing experiments at JRW????


Nic Collins (SAR fanatic and PRR supporter)



Gotta luv the sound of a Turbo'd 16 cylinder !!
 
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barbiepurl Beginner   Joined: Oct 21, 2008
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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:55 pm
Maintenance (annual)

1.Change oil, filters Engine not running, check
2.Electrical
3.Oil and coolant levels
4.Leaks, holes and connections

Battery and charger (semi-annual)

1.Load, acid and specific gravity
2.Corrosion cleaned
3.Charger output (adjust if necessary)

Fuel system

1.Leaks, water, sediment checks
2. Day tank – float switch pump
3.Governor linkage

Coolant system (check only)

1.Antifreeze, radiator and cap
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TheLoneGunMan Chief Train Controller   Joined: Nov 13, 2005
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:13 am
12CSVT wrote:
The 'BU's dont really count as cabless locos as they are engine-less slugs. Again, another American concept that didn't really catch on here - although maybe because the 'BU's were created for the wrong reason - ie. working trains. In the U.S. they seem to restrict them to heavy shunting as master+slave units. I am not aware of slugs being used in the 'States in what they term "road service".

The 'BU's were a bit of a waste of 4 good '600's. They may have been more useful themselves as cabless 'B' units (or slaves).

Cheers,
SZ


Hi All,

Actually CSX have about 200 slugs in road service they consist of old GP30 and GP35's that have been de-motored & coupled to GP40's and GP40-2's. CSX crews like having their GP30 & GP35 slugs lead for the "quiet" ride that they offer. Also they have RCPHG4 & RCPHG6 which are radio controlled units which were made from some B23-7's & C30-7's etc. Yard Slugs are mostly old SW1500's etc that have kept their traction equipment but have been beefed up in weight for low speed adhesion.

CSX Road Slug 2200 ex B&O GP35 mated to GP40-2 6448
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=95232

CSX Road Slug 2201 ex B&O GP30 mated to GP40-2 6423
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=152041

CSX RCPHE4 9125 ex B&O GP40 the beacons give it away
[url]http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=743471

CSX RCPHE4 9119 ex SAL GP40 with engineer in front steps with radio control unit
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=351738

CSX RCPHG6 9301 ex L&N C30-7
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=686079

B Units, just a couple of different roads.
SOO SD40 6450 ex BN 6302
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=20205

ATSF SD40-2 5032 & SD45-2B 5510
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1223448

CP SD40-2B 5478 ex Southern SD40-2 3246
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=302471

ATSF GP60B 325 (Warbonnet)
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1084214
BNSF GP60B 325 (Heritage) trailing ES44DC 7784
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=367924

I hope that these links show some different American railroad locomotive applications.

Mike P


http://www.trainweb.org/mccann/offer.htm For the below gif files and more!
Pilbara Loco's
 
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TheLoneGunMan Chief Train Controller   Joined: Nov 13, 2005
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:21 am
Hi All,

I forgot to add that Amtrak remotored some of their old Alco RS-3's which turned them into RS-3M's. They got mostly EMD 567 motors but kept almost everything else, they did get a new body shape which can be seen in the below link.

Amtrak RS-3M 104
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1116223

Mike P


http://www.trainweb.org/mccann/offer.htm For the below gif files and more!
Pilbara Loco's
 
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