Geelong line platform lengthening

wongm · Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:23 pm

From the Geelong Advertiser:
http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2008/09/06/17992_news.html

574M · Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:08 pm

So, where do we get the extra carriage from? Shocked

Loco · Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:13 pm

My guess would be a 3 car V/Locity, along with 2 x 2 Car ones.

= 7 cars...

kuldalai · Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:08 pm

Now none of this announcement really makes much sense.
Seven car N sets have been operating as 1715 Dn Sth Geelong well before the 05/2006 timetable.

Firstly, 7 N cars are 160m long (180m with N loco)
2 car V/L + 3 car V/L + 2 car V/L = 7 car Vlocity = 175m

Secondly, current platform lengths are Marshall 160m, Sth Geelong 159m, Geelong (1) 205m (2/3) 185m Nth Geelong 173m North Shore 173m Corio 159m Lara 173m Little River 159m Werribee Dn 170m Up 159m Newport 159m Footscray Dn 159m Up 163m Nth Melbourne (5/6) 159m .

Media report mentioned extra car on 4 busiest peak period services. That would suggest 2 Up and 2 Down stopping Marshall, Sth Geelong, Geelong, Nth Geelong, and Nth Melbourne services. Also media said take longer to extend at Sth Geelong and Nth Geelong account track moves needed.

Marshall - 7 N cars will fit in 163m at Marshall but not 7 V/L .
Sth Geelong - 7 N cars will fit in 163 m but not 7 V/L .
Geelong - already able to hold 7 N cars or 7 V/L on all plats .
Nth Geelong - Already able to hold 7 N cars and with a few extra metres could hold 7 V/L.
Nth Melbourne - (5/6) Could possibly be extended in Up direction (Signalling complications / track circuits etc ?)

Also whilst it would require moving Annet locked points further in down direction at Sth Geelong, to extend Nth Geelong at down end there should be no signals or track involved it is straight railed .

The extra cars come available as a result of cascade following arrival of V/L centre cars .

Agree, this is Mickey Mouse stuff - as a minimum the plats at Marshall,
Sth Geelong, Nth Geelong, Lara, Nth Melbourne (5/6) should be extended to 175 - 180m to accommodate 7 car V/L trains running both the Express or Ltd Express stopping patterns.

The Vinelander · Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:31 pm

Mickelaar · Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:31 pm

Any improvement is good improvement.

Wouldn't Werribee and the Melbourne station lengths need to be amended also?

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DalyWaters · Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:38 pm

No obvious forward planning in the building of Marshall platform, eh?

Now, lets see how they are going to extend North Melbourne!

And, will this cause a longer delay getting in to Southern Cross as the train waits for a suitable length platform to become free?

fullofrubbish · Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:57 pm

574M · Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:02 pm

fast01 · Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:17 pm

scottydl · Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:54 pm

The platform lengthening at the locations on the Geelong corridor will be completed in time for the 9th November VLP & Connex major timetable changes. There will be 2 x 2 Car & 1 x 3 Car Vlocity configurations on the following trains, which are the heaviest peak runs as regular commuters will vouch for -

1640 Dn Marshall & 1729 Dn Marshall flagship. The morning runs will be the 0650 Up Marshall and the 0717 Up Sth Geelong flagship. Also various off-peak and weekend running as single 3 Car units.

The 3rd 3 Car unit (VL 39) is out doing more testing on Tuesday and hopefully will finally take up its 1520 Traralgon & 0710 Up run some time later in the week.

The 4th & 5th units VL 38 (currently at Bombardier) and VL 37 (to go in as soon as 39 comes out) are planned for the increased Geelong line capacity mentioned above - by the 9th November.

Loco · Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:16 pm

alstom_888m · Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:06 am

awsgc24 · Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:05 am

Note that there is another thread about Overshooting Platforms, albeit in Sydney, which has some relevance to this thread.

http://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11343567.htm

All other things being equal, for fastest stops at platforms, platforms should be "significantly longer" than the trains that stop there. Otherwise the train has to slow carefully and with precision, which wastes time.

So extend the platforms by 20m not 3m. Priority should be given to platforms on steep falling gradients particularly where approach speeds are high; in Sydney this would be Pymble, Janalli, Oatley, Denistone amongst other stations.

This is one of the few things that can be done quickly to speed up Melbourne trains.

Questions: A) Are platforms in Melbourne/Brisbane/Perth/Adelaide marked with 3/6 car markers like the 4/6/8 car markers in Sydney?

B) To help passengers position themselves on the platforms, there should also be markers for the REAR of the trains. Is this done?

C) Do the electronic destination indicators on the platforms in Melbourne, etc, say how many cars the trains have, like wot Sydney does?

D) Does the minister or her minders ever read posts like this on Railpage Australia™?

duttonbay · Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:12 pm