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snowy446
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:00 pm
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How many people have seen trains overshoot platforms and which
platforms does it happen the most
It happened at Unanderra and i was filming at the time on the train
Here is the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNqfQFmDeqI
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dasher
Chief Commissioner
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:23 pm
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It happens at Jannali a bit.
I didn't come here looking for trouble, I just came to do the RP shuffle... break it down...
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1979
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Location: Your Not Getting It That Easy
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:56 pm
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I know for a fact that it happens at Loftus, Janalli, Como and Penshurst in the wet 
Do Do Do Attention Passengers, the 9:17 Empty Train via the Eastern Subburbs and Illawarra line will now depart from platform 4. Please make your way to platform 4.
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TheLoadedDog
El Sombrero!
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:04 am
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| tuscangoggo wrote: | | Trains overshoot at Sydney Terminal every now and then. |
Nearly as much fun as when ferries overshoot at Circular Quay. Several times in my life I've seen those big wooden buffers (sorry, nautical types - dunno what you call 'em) split clean in two and the concourse damaged. Quite impressive.
Humphrey! We're leaving!
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Kav442s5
Chief Train Controller
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Location: Near the 160km peg on the Short North, at the computer playing keyboard warriors.
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:27 am
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Pymble on the up was a real biartch with K sets or K-S combos, or 'rocket' R sets.
Agreed about Jannali and Loftus on the Up, also Doonside and Werrington on the down could be a bit deceptive, and then there was Mulgrave on the down on the Richmond line, treated that one with the utmost of care.
Lindfield on the up on a Tangara at night was good fun though, come down the hill powering till 75 clicks, shut off, then go into full EP and watch the light show as the power went back into the O/H and the 420 amps on the guage  I did see 480 show up briefly once.
It's creepy crawly season, so stop those creepys from crawling, particularly if its a TERMITE!
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anuthanearmiss
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:51 am
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No mention of Cheltenham Station
grab place for trainees esp in the wet
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Jahommed
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:46 am
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Sometimes the Tangaras overshoot at Miranda after coming from Caringbah. Usually the first door misses the platform but they dont bother reversing. 
Tangara G sets are the best trains on the cityrail network.
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cammo2005
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:20 pm
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Being a regular user of Loftus station, I've not noticed any overshoots in the last while...
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There's an apostrophe in don't.
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tsgsjm
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:51 pm
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Have put the front doors off at Wenty on the up main in a tangara in the morning peak in the wet, it just didnt want to stop.
Have to agree with Cheltemham and Pymble on the up, also Doonside on the down. Also have to watch Carlton on the up.
In my books the one that can really get you is Como on the up, just when you think you have it, it runs away on you. It always gets respect from me.
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Crazy-D
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:58 am
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I haven't really been in many trains which have overshot the platform (or noticed it), but one place that comes to mind is Holsworthy. It happened in the wet and I was in the second carriage. It was all track and no platform.
If I do guess right, and I don't reply within 6 hours you can assume "open floor."
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awsgc24
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:20 am
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Another thread on Platform Lengthening in Melbourne has some relevance to this thread. http://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11343578.htm
All other things being equal, if a platform is longer than the train, then overshooting is less of a problem. Also, drivers can drive their trains harder - saving time - if they know that the platform has length to spare. Where platform extensions are easy, it is false economy to have platform no longer the the trains that they serve.
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borosa
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:03 pm
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Can a train be reversed easily?
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tsgsjm
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:15 pm
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| borosa wrote: | | Can a train be reversed easily? |
Physically yes thats the easy part, is it permitted, in some places under signallers authority. There are locations where setting back is not permitted at all. Would you bother, probably not, too time consuming as the guard is supposed to walk to the last car, and propel you back.
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awsgc24
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:25 pm
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| tsgsjm wrote: | | borosa wrote: | | Can a train be reversed easily? |
Physically yes that's the easy part, is it permitted, in some places under signaller's authority. There are locations where setting back is not permitted at all. Would you bother, probably not, too time consuming as the guard is supposed to walk to the last car, and propel you back. |
If the rear of the train passes a blockjoint in the track circuiting, that happens to be an overlap, then reversal is not permitted. Drivers would not of course easily know for sure whether they have or have not passed such a blockjoint, making reversal problematic. Firstly, the driver cannot see the rear of the train (nor the guard in the middle car), and secondly, where are these blockjoints anyhow!
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Crazy-D
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:07 pm
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| awsgc24 wrote: | | If the rear of the train passes a blockjoint in the track circuiting, that happens to be an overlap, then reversal is not permitted. Drivers would not of course easily know for sure whether they have or have not passed such a blockjoint, making reversal problematic. Firstly, the driver cannot see the rear of the train (nor the guard in the middle car), and secondly, where are these blockjoints anyhow! |
What would happen then if the train went down the wrong road and passed a blockjoint? (at a junction of course)
If I do guess right, and I don't reply within 6 hours you can assume "open floor."
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