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TE2815 Minister for Railways   Joined: Mar 19, 2004
Last Visited: Jan 4, 2009
Location: Watching Louise from behind the camera!


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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:55 pm
Others are:
    Maroubra MP Michael Daley was handed the high-profile roads portfolio
    Jodi McKay is now tourism minister
    Virginia Judge is fair trading minister
    Former Parramatta mayor David Borger was named housing minister
    Phil Costa has taken responsibility for water, rural affairs and regional development
    Tony Stewart is small business, and science and medical research minister, and will be assisting the health minister on cancer.
    Tony Kelly is the new industrial relations minister, and will also handle emergency services and lands
    Linda Burney was elevated to community services
    Matt Brown is the new police minister and minister for the Illawarra
    Ian Macdonald remains primary industries, energy and mineral resources and state development minister.
    Kevin Greene takes over from Graham West as gaming and racing and sport and recreation minister
    Mr West is now juvenile justice, youth, and volunteering minister
    Barbara Perry is local government minister, and will also assist the health minister on mental health
    Paul Lynch is minister for Aboriginal affairs, ageing and disability services



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(No offence intended to TE 2815 by the way with that comment/remark as TE2815 is one of the "old hands" & more knowledgeable blokes as shown in many a post/contribution")

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NSWRTM123 Chief Commissioner   Joined: Nov 09, 2007
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:31 pm
Well Greg, you got your wish. Just remeber to be careful what you wish for.



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cammo2005 Assistant Commissioner   Joined: Dec 16, 2004
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Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia.


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cammo2005   
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:10 pm
With Roozendaal as Treasurer, expect rail funding to be cut drastically (remember he was roads minister previously).

Hopefully most of the cutbacks at RailCorp are middle management though - where there is WAY too much fat.





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Fireman Dave Chief Commissioner   Joined: Jan 12, 2003
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Fireman Dave   
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:41 pm
cammo2005 wrote:
With Roozendaal as Treasurer, expect rail funding to be cut drastically (remember he was roads minister previously).


You are making a very rash assumption..........




....that ministers have some degree of interest in their portfolio.



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dalts 1985 Chief Commissioner   Joined: Jul 29, 2003
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dalts 1985   
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:01 pm
cammo2005 wrote:
With Roozendaal as Treasurer, expect rail funding to be cut drastically (remember he was roads minister previously).

Hopefully most of the cutbacks at RailCorp are middle management though - where there is WAY too much fat.

Where the cuts in Middle management are saved, they can redeploy those funds to the coal face in the Front line CSA areas... eg hiring more Drivers/Guards & filling the vast vacant No#'s of Stn Staff CSA Positions that need filling...





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cammo2005 Assistant Commissioner   Joined: Dec 16, 2004
Last Visited: Dec 26, 2008
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia.


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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:25 pm
Of course, the middle managers won't have a bar of it, and frontline staff will be cut again. The government doesn't care so long as it gets its headline "$x billion saved".

Both major parties at state level have lost my vote - Labor because it couldn't organise a p*ssup in a brewery, and the Liberals for a similar reason. Both are completely and utterly inept. I mean, how on EARTH do you manage to bungle the 2007 election from opposition?!? And yet, they did it.

Call me old fashioned, but I thought the idea of our government's system was to have the people represented in some way, shape or form.

Because at current, all that seems to be represented is the egos and pork-barrelling tactics of a tired and inept parliament.





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5814 Station Master   Joined: Apr 23, 2008
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:14 pm
Certainly the spectacle of recent NSW government is very discouraging as is the performance of the opposition, if anything even worse. On this site at least we all know about things like chronic neglect of rail in favour of road, and pathetic mismanagement that sees Sydney still without integrated public transport ticketing that was meant to be ready in time for the Sydney Olympics in 2000!

When Iemma, Costa and Sartor leaving Cabinet mean the quality has gone sharply down (which in my view it definitely has, in intellect and energy even if not in good manners or sympathy for rail in Costa's case) you know there's a problem.

At least Sartor wasn't the sort to give in to NIMBYs who drive their polluting huge 4WDs but object to rail freight terminals, or even extra tracks, anywhere in their area because those will somehow destroy the environment.

Just watch the new crop of ministers cave in or stall on these issues next time they come up - the "Greens" in Marrickville even objected to an extra track on the Botany branch!! Of course, it's the single line section now that causes most noise there, as trains have to start and stop and grind through the points. But with Virginia "No Port Enfield" Judge now in cabinet, even if thank god not in environment or planning, don't look for much courage or intellect there.

We shouldn't forget a few big "contributions" from Canberra to NSW transport problems during the Howard years:

(1) buying their way back in to power a few ties with tax cuts for people to turn into plasma TVs and higher house prices instead of investing in education, health and infrastructure including rail - a particular problem for Sydney as the place with the biggest amount of ageing infrastructure in need of expensive updates, and the place that has absorbed more population growth than anywhere else

(2) despite (1), NSW taxpayers have been actually subsidising the boom states of Qld and WA at least until very recently via dodgy Commonwealth grants commission formulas.

Probably no-one will listen to people of the quality of the current NSW government talking about either of these things, of course.

One hopeful sign is that Anthony Albanese who now has his hands on a very large bucket of federal money actually has an interest in urban infrastructure issues so maybe better things are ahead for rail in future

Back to NSW government however - those on this thread talking about more frontline positions being filled, I would not get your hopes up, a government now desparately looking for budget savings is bound to grab on to the recommendations of the recent review which recommended big cuts to station staffing in many locations, and even bigger cuts to guards, meaning all of them ... A few guards' jobs, or abandon our promise to build a shiny new metro line ... um just let me think about that one for 3 seconds Minister
 
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Boss Assistant Commissioner   Joined: Aug 04, 2004
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Boss   
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:18 pm
Fireman Dave wrote:
cammo2005 wrote:
With Roozendaal as Treasurer, expect rail funding to be cut drastically (remember he was roads minister previously).


You are making a very rash assumption..........




....that ministers have some degree of interest in their portfolio.


Fireman Dave is correct. They don't in Victoria.



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hurstville1 Chief Commissioner   Joined: Mar 13, 2007
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:36 pm
I'm glad I don't have to vote, sounds hard with all of these changes Smile



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alltrainzfan Chief Commissioner   Joined: Sep 19, 2005
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alltrainzfan   
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:01 pm
I wish I could vote. Laughing I like how politics goes around.

Seven News last night had a report which had Jeff Kennett talking about what happened when he won the 1992 Elections in Victoria. Labor NSW finds itself in a similar position to Labor in 1992 - heaps of debt. Joan Kirner's government was divided on the issue about how to manage the debt. They cut government spending and raised revenue, but will be problematic as that will cause war with the unions and members within its own party. And Kennett said that it's very, very difficult to fix the problem of debt, and that's how Labor lost that election. May we find a similar situation here in NSW now?
 
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johnboy Chief Commissioner   Joined: Nov 22, 2004
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:04 pm
alltrainzfan wrote:
I wish I could vote. Laughing I like how politics goes around.
May we find a similar situation here in NSW now?

The only similar thing is NSW is in debt.
We may have a new Premier, but we have the same ALP running it.
More debt to come!
 
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Inspector Chief Train Controller   Joined: Feb 05, 2006
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:39 pm
alltrainzfan wrote:
Jeff Kennett [was] talking about what happened when he won the 1992 Elections in Victoria. Labor NSW finds itself in a similar position to Labor in 1992 - heaps of debt......Kennett said that it's very, very difficult to fix the problem of debt, and that's how Labor lost that election. May we find a similar situation here in NSW now?


I fully agree. The only problem is, there's nobody even remotely resembling Kennett on the horizon.



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Speed Chief Commissioner   Joined: Mar 19, 2007
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Speed   
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:47 am
johnboy wrote:
alltrainzfan wrote:
May we find a similar situation here in NSW now?

The only similar thing is NSW is in debt. We may have a new Premier, but we have the same ALP running it.
I don't know whether the intention was to refute alltrainzfan or to associate the Labor party with debt in general.

I agree that the situation with state government debt does seem similar to that in the late 80s. Kirner's replacing Cain preceeded Kennett's election. Unsworth's replacing Wran preceeded Greiner's election. Greiner and Kennett might have publicised the high levels of debt but Unsworth and Kirner would still have been burdened by it.

Inspector's point about no Jeff being in sight is true but Kennett's election as leader of Victoria's parliamentary Liberal Party was a Lazarus-like return at the time (as opposed to Lazarus on a triple bypass in the federal party later).
 
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:43 pm
While people might think that seeing Costa and Iemma off might lead to things improving, I doubt people actually realise who is left.

Eric Roozendaal was allowed to contest one of the safest Labor seats, why? Because he is a party powerbroker, hardly a person interested in the electorate. Same goes for John Della Bosca, who was known as a kingmaker prior to being named to join the ministry. To a lesser extent Joe Tripodi is also a powerbroker, more than actual politician.

Yet somehow people believe, blue-eyed, that these people are interested in what is happening to ordinary people in their electorate when they have spent most of their political lives in the dark back rooms of parliament, for Della Bosca and Roozendaal, much of it was spent as unelected bureaucrats. These are the same people who are suddenly going to stop handing out favours to their mates and start turning the rot which NSW has gotten itself into around. Right! Evil or Very Mad
 
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sandown Deputy Commissioner   Joined: Jan 24, 2004
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:11 am
TE2815 wrote:
Others are:


    Matt Brown is the new police minister and minister for the Illawarra



Matt Brown WAS the Police Minister. He has been sacked after 3 days.



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