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Steamwerk
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:27 pm
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| DRR_Fireman wrote: | have heard the 2 rakes of log wagons in Devonport are going to get cut.
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And some if not all from Conara and i heard Fingal too watch out for them traveling by road to Bell Bay soon
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Only15
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:30 am
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this is so stupid, can't wait till these idiots go away!
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siroch
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:31 am
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All FD, FF, QP and the remaining two TRs, unused TUs, CEs, NHTF and various other rubbish are going for scrap. All of these wagons were not offered as part of the sale. None of the QS, QNF, FP, FE, FEP, HQ, ZJ wagons should be going anywhere at this stage.
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Only15
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:58 am
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aren't the FD's a majority of the log wagons?
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Z1NorthernProgress2110
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:16 pm
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The FDs are log wagons. Now, i thought PNT was to be sold "as is were is" basis. If this is true, wouldn't the scrapping of rail equipment deem illegal?
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Only15
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:29 pm
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lol i am aware of them being log wagons Damo,
what i meant is that the FDs are most of the log wagons true?,
so whats the point of keeping the FPs, FEs and FEPs?
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Z1NorthernProgress2110
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 1:28 pm
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ahh, sorry champ yes true, most of the log wagon fleet. I agree, why keep the older FP FE and FEP's when they are the most flimsiest wagons out there.
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siroch
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 1:49 pm
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On what basis do you claim that FEs are among the most flimsiest wagons out there? They are light weight, strong and more than capable of handling logs where the weight is carried directly through the bolsters to the bogies. Conversion to QNs to carry UPMs was even a good outcome as the load was light and carried more or less by the centre sill. The problems came with the conversion to QNFs and the fitting of automatic twistlocks which resulted in point loading away from the original designed loading points causing excessive bending stress on the underframe. Can we please stick to facts rather than opinion?
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austrain
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:38 pm
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spot on siroch!
The FE's were built for logs are good wagons for this purpose and still would be.
Nothing wrong with scrapping wagons that are stuffed, makes sense to get rid of the rubbish, this is not new, even ATN scrapped wagons & locos.
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ZR2101
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:07 pm
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Hi Guys Have viewed your Forum 4 ages and thought it was time i Joined up I have only been a rail fan for a year or so does anyone have a picture of ZR 2101 i can use for a background Cheers
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Z1NorthernProgress2110
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:22 pm
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Ok, so i was wrong on FEs. I thought they were flimsy due to there construction, easy to be twisted when derailed.
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DRR_Fireman
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:38 pm
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Not the TU's and CE's!!
Its a shame that one of each class being cut couldnt be preserved, if not donated then offered for sale to the societies.
But of course, PN wouldnt get any $$$ from that.
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Don River Railway, Tasmania -U/V class driver, Trainee Fireman, Trainee Railcar driver and Shunter extraordinaire!
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ZR2101
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:41 pm
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Sorry i'm changing the subject but what is the go with 2101's derailing issue is it at East Tamar at the moment.
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Z1NorthernProgress2110
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:52 pm
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Bogies i recall. They were overhauled a few years ago and they were causing derailments everywhere. She is stored at East Tamar last time i heard.
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ZR2101
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:54 pm
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R ok it would be good 2 see it back in service.
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