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Union warns unmanned stations are dangerous

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Gwiwer Rt Hon Gentleman and Ghost of Oliver Bulleid   Joined: Nov 22, 2003
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:42 am
Many manned stations have just a single staff member on duty some of the time though there will be more than one at certain times to allow for peaks and required breaks.

I agree that there will be times when all that can be done is to call for assistance. However at least that can be done with staff present. It cannot be done at unattended stations unless the emergency talking brick is working correctly, answered and a suitable response arranged by the operator. That is not always the case.



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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:48 pm
Also the Union wants some V/Line unmanned stations to upgrade to become staff stations from First to Last service.



 
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:29 pm
Heihachi_73 wrote:
Gwiwer wrote:
... Ringwood, ... fully staffed


If you call platform 3 anything useful at all, since every single up and down service at night departs platforms 1 and 2, where all the trouble is. Lately, not even the security guards or AOs show up there, except when changing trains.


Wait, so are you saying that platforms one and two are where the trouble is?

I reckon that overpass would be shifty as at night, as would a place like Laburnum, and even North/West Richmond.
 
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:27 pm
Do stations have CCTV?



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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:28 pm
Yes they do. The "safe area" is always under CCTV surveillance and other areas may be as well.



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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:26 pm
Safe area? As opposed to the un-safe area?

I'd be putting the whole thing under constant surveillance, plus AO's on patrol 24/7.



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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:20 pm
I pay my fee's to the Union and 4 times I have gone to them about things just to be told "Sorry we can not help you" and no one has told me not to take the posters down, so unless my boss tells me not to take them down they will come down as they are not postered produced by Connex.

Also the Union has picked a very good time to do this as well because the tenders are coming in and it's a good way for the RTBU to try and take over and force it back into the hands of the public.



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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:26 pm
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Safe area? As opposed to the un-safe area?

I'd be putting the whole thing under constant surveillance, plus AO's on patrol 24/7.


ALL railway stations have CCTV maned or un-maned, the footage is also recorded as well.

As for the red button working and the response time of staff what happens is when you press that button it will come up on our CCTV screens and we can see what is going on. Also 99.7% of all people pressing the button do not read the sign and then say "Sorry press the wrong button" or they press it and walk off or they press it just to tell us the station clock is slow by 4min and asking us to send a crew out to fix it trust me I have had that happen Laughing



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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:58 pm
Do Stony Point stations have CCTV and talking bricks?



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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:25 pm
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Do Stony Point stations have CCTV and talking bricks?


I'm not sure I am 80% sure they do, I have not been down that line in years I think the last time I was down that way by train was 2.5 years ago Embarassed



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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:31 pm
steveo2004 wrote:
I pay my fee's to the Union and 4 times I have gone to them about things just to be told "Sorry we can not help you" and no one has told me not to take the posters down, so unless my boss tells me not to take them down they will come down as they are not postered produced by Connex.


However they were put up by Connex staff (union members). As you are someone who works on the stations, surely you should accept how useful it is to have station staff on stations.

If there were no stations staffed at all, you wouldn't be in a job, remember that.

I'm appalled by your selfish attitude.

Regardless, if you take posters down, they will just put up replacements. Staff everywhere have been told who to contact for more posters.

steveo2004 wrote:

Also the Union has picked a very good time to do this as well because the tenders are coming in and it's a good way for the RTBU to try and take over and force it back into the hands of the public.


Another one of your conspiracy theories. It's got nothing to do with who operates the system or whether its a private organisation or government organisation.

It's about getting the government to commit to staffing stations as part of their transport plan, regardless of whose railway it is.



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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:32 pm
steveo2004 wrote:
route14 wrote:
Do Stony Point stations have CCTV and talking bricks?


I'm not sure I am 80% sure they do,


Glad you wern't 100% sure, because they don't have them.



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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:18 pm
Nexas wrote:
steveo2004 wrote:
route14 wrote:
Do Stony Point stations have CCTV and talking bricks?


I'm not sure I am 80% sure they do,


Glad you wern't 100% sure, because they don't have them.


They dont have what CCTV or the Box?



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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:27 pm
Its taken the union more than 10 years to realise that unmanned stations are unsafe Confused



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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:45 pm
steveo2004 wrote:
Nexas wrote:
steveo2004 wrote:
route14 wrote:
Do Stony Point stations have CCTV and talking bricks?


I'm not sure I am 80% sure they do,


Glad you wern't 100% sure, because they don't have them.


They dont have what CCTV or the Box?


The question was do they have CCTV and talking bricks. I said they don't have them. That implies they don't have either of them.

Frankston being the exception on the line.



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