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NSWGR Semaphore Signals Help!!!

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NSWRTM123 Chief Commissioner   Joined: Nov 09, 2007
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:59 am
Excuse my ignorance, but could someone please answer the following questions for me.
1. What distinguising features separate the NSWGR upper and lower quadrant signals?
2. What types should be placed where on a small branchline terminus.

I already have info on what different signal arms stand for and names components have.



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awsgc24 Minister for Railways   Joined: Feb 18, 2003
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 1:19 pm
NSWRTM123 wrote:
Excuse my ignorance, but could someone please answer the following questions for me.
1. What distinguising features separate the NSWGR upper and lower quadrant signals?
2. What types should be placed where on a small branchline terminus.

I already have info on what different signal arms stand for and names components have.


UQ arms have three lenses, coloured GYR, GGR or GRR as the case may be.

UQ arms also have a second light above or below the arm, as the case may be.

LQ arms have two lenses, coloured GR.

LQ arms may have straight ends (home) or fishtail ends (distant).

UQ signals almost always are controlled by track circuits.

LQ signals may or may not be controlled by track circuits.

UQ and LQ arms may be bracketed on the same post, such as at Cootamundra until recent resignalling. None now left.
 
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tbohlsennswssrg Train Controller   Joined: Dec 19, 2005
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 2:21 pm
Here is a ARTC document on the different types of siginals:

http://www.artc.com.au/library/ANSG%20600%20Running%20signals%20I%201%20Rev%202.pdf



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The_trolley Chief Train Controller   Joined: May 02, 2006
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:56 pm
NSWRTM123 wrote:

2. What types should be placed where on a small branchline terminus.


If its a terminus on a branch you will have just one signal, a Lower quadrant down home located at the entrance to the yard, say an engine lengths from the first set of points, usually the loop. Red with white band. Ground frames too operate points leading off the main and loop, thornleys or throw over/ball lever points elsewhere in the yard.

If you want to get real flash, a lower quadrant up starter and a couple catchpoint indicators.

Landmark (yellow triangle with centre cut out) before the home stick.



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upperquadrant Station Master   Joined: Oct 23, 2008
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:24 am
awsgc24 wrote:
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UQ signals almost always are controlled by track circuits.


Not allways the case. Not all UQ's are automatic. The can be controled from a signal box as well.
 
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awsgc24 Minister for Railways   Joined: Feb 18, 2003
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:39 pm
upperquadrant wrote:
awsgc24 wrote:

UQ signals almost always are controlled by track circuits.


Not allways the case. Not all UQ's are automatic. The can be controled from a signal box as well.


Shall rephrase. Should have said UQ almost always controlled by track circuits and may be controlled by signal levers as well.
 
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TE2815 Minister for Railways   Joined: Mar 19, 2004
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:21 pm
awsgc24 wrote:
upperquadrant wrote:
awsgc24 wrote:

UQ signals almost always are controlled by track circuits.


Not allways the case. Not all UQ's are automatic. The can be controled from a signal box as well.


Shall rephrase. Should have said UQ almost always controlled by track circuits and may be controlled by signal levers as well.
Actually you were kind of right in the first place. Upper Quadrant signals are controlled by track circuits as they are/were located at locations with signal boxes that were track circuited areas.



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