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Robbb01
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:06 pm
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Hey all.....
i have the nightrider solution for Melbourne...
here it is
-City to Melton via Western Fwy, Rockbank
-City to Caroline Springs via Footscray
-City to Geelong via Werribee, Princes Fwy
-City to Mernda via Tulla, Western Ring and Hume Freeways and Epping
-City to Roxburgh Park via Tulla Fwy, Greenvale
-City to Sunbury via Calder, Tulla Fwy, Diggers Rest
-City to Lilydale via Ringwood, Eastern/Eastlink fwy
-City to Cranbourne via Dandenong, Monash/Sth Gippsland Fwy
-City to Pakenham via Dandenong, Monash Fwy
-City to Rosebud via Monash/Eastlink Fwys, Frankston
All tram routes will also operate with two car trams
any comments
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BMTA511
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:20 pm
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That might be more useful as a full time 4am to 12am service to ease the pressure on the metro rail system than a night rider bus. Or even just peak time extra express buses.
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trolleybusracer
Deputy Commissioner
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Location: St Albans Sydenham Watergardens Line
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:35 pm
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| Robbb01 wrote: | Hey all.....
i have the nightrider solution for Melbourne...
here it is
-City to Melton via Western Fwy, Rockbank
-City to Caroline Springs via Footscray
-City to Geelong via Werribee, Princes Fwy
-City to Mernda via Tulla, Western Ring and Hume Freeways and Epping
-City to Roxburgh Park via Tulla Fwy, Greenvale
-City to Sunbury via Calder, Tulla Fwy, Diggers Rest
-City to Lilydale via Ringwood, Eastern/Eastlink fwy
-City to Cranbourne via Dandenong, Monash/Sth Gippsland Fwy
-City to Pakenham via Dandenong, Monash Fwy
-City to Rosebud via Monash/Eastlink Fwys, Frankston
All tram routes will also operate with two car trams
any comments |
another idea would be that trains would operate from Flinders street and Expensive Street (southern cross) to a transfer point (like sunshine for Melton Caroline Springs service) But Said Connectiing Buses would not leave until the connecting train has arrived
a few of them you listed could be Combined (again the Melton and Caroline Springs route)
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Metro Transit
Minister for Railways
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:19 pm
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| Robbb01 wrote: | All tram routes will also operate with two car trams
any comments |
That might be difficult on routes that run with A or Z class trams.
Metro.
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Heihachi_73
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:59 pm
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I have a good solution for Night Rider buses. How about actually running them on more than two days a week? Melbourne isn't only alive on Friday and Saturday nights.
For example, you have a bit of a go at Crown Casino and realise it's 11:40pm. You head down to Flinders Street or Southern Cross only to find that there's no more Lilydale or Belgrave trains running until 5am. You can get the last 109 tram as far as Box Hill, or the 75 to Vermont South, and then you're stuffed and if you live somewhere like Ringwood or further eastbound it's still going to be a massive taxi bill, or a massive walk if you're fit.
It's the same facing the other way too. Once the 11:36 (weeknight) Flinders Street service leaves Ringwood you can't go anywhere towards the city (for example Mitcham or Box Hill) without a car or a taxi. At the Lilydale end, the last train is gone before it even hits 11 on a Sunday night.
You cannot run from your own bunghole.
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route14
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:29 am
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I agree that some tram routes should have all night services. The rollingstock is otherwise idle, and the overhead is live all night. However I would rather use A/Z class because in case of vandalism I wouldn't have any better trams to encounter it.
A true friend will see you through when others see that you are through.
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wongm
Minister for Railways
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:40 pm
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| route14 wrote: | | However I would rather use A/Z class because in case of vandalism I wouldn't have any better trams to encounter it. |
If you are going to do that, you might as well lock up the trams entirely to passengers and ask PN if they have any spare container flats you can couple up behind.
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Natronomonas
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:34 pm
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I think you've just solved the daytime overcrowding issue in one fell swoop!
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Robbb01
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:26 pm
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Yes
a friend of mine complains that nightrider doesn't run more nights during the week.
My new website on Melbourne and its public transport network coming sooonnn.
Guy on Airplane: Oh great, I always end up sitting next to a damn baby.
Stewie: What did you just say?
Lois: Stewie, stop fussing.
Stewie: Pipe down Lois. (Slaps guy on head.) Hey big man, turn around. Oh you can't hear me now. I was going to watch the movie, but forget it. For the next 5 hours, you're my smeg.
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route14
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:08 pm
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True, we should make nightrider buses operating every night (morning) as the first step.
A true friend will see you through when others see that you are through.
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Westernport
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:38 pm
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wasnt there an all night tram service from Melbourne University to Prahran or somewhere run by the Met back in the day?
i think it was called NightLink or something....
| route14 wrote: | | True, we should make nightrider buses operating every night (morning) as the first step. |
yeah.. i agree.. nightrider should run all night.
but try and convince bus operators to send their fleet and drivers out all night, every night, and bring them back in for normal operations the next morning..
its now a requirement that ALL nightrider buses be fitted with CCTV.. which means either retrofitting older buses with cameras, or sending out the new kids.
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trolleybusracer
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:48 pm
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it was one big loop IIRC
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Nexas
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:52 pm
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| trolleybusracer wrote: | | it was one big loop IIRC |
It wasn't a loop. It operated as route 99 from Melbourne University to Fitzroy via St Kilda. Operated via Swanston Street, Batman Avenue, Church Street, Chapel Street, Carlisle Street, The Esplanade, Fitzroy Street, Light Rail, Clarendon Street, Spencer Street, Collins Street, Macarthur Street, St Vincents Plaza, Brunswick Street, terminating at Fergie Street.
It was operated with A class trams.
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Robbb01
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:53 pm
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Why was it taken away?
My new website on Melbourne and its public transport network coming sooonnn.
Guy on Airplane: Oh great, I always end up sitting next to a damn baby.
Stewie: What did you just say?
Lois: Stewie, stop fussing.
Stewie: Pipe down Lois. (Slaps guy on head.) Hey big man, turn around. Oh you can't hear me now. I was going to watch the movie, but forget it. For the next 5 hours, you're my smeg.
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route14
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:34 pm
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Network broken into two, and also Batman Ave. had been ripped up.
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