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vlocity160
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Henry
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 2:11 pm
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nice photos vlocity160
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rjcas
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:14 pm
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I was on board as a Train officer, I enjoyed this one a lot, the passengers had a great time, especially for one couple who had a really nice story.
She has family in Camperdown and hadn't seen them in close to 6 years, she kept thanking the SRHC for running the tour and said the Camperdown train was a dream come true. Upon arrival into our final destination, a gentleman from the local newspaper interviewed her and her husband about the train, so for those who live in the Camperdown area, keep your eyes peeled for the article.
I should also take the time to thank the people down at the Cobden miniature railway, the majority of the Train officers hopped on the bus up there and had a really great time. All in all, a great day out, many thanks to all involved in organising the tour.
Gone to the Pub... I'll be home tomorrow night....
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:37 pm
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Shame that heritage tours are no longer using heritage loco's.Isnt this what people pay for. Not to have them on hire when these trips are being run.
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vlocity160
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:44 pm
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| rjcas wrote: |
I should also take the time to thank the people down at the Cobden miniature railway, the majority of the Train officers hopped on the bus up there and had a really great time. All in all, a great day out, many thanks to all involved in organising the tour. |
I should thank them also! Great miniature railway they have there and an awsome CLP loco!
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Matt
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:54 pm
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Only saw the train at Camperdown for a couple of mins. Was too bloody tired to do much else. Walked on the platform saw a few people i knew including meeting the one and only famous Rogie Dodgie!! Will post some photos of both this tour and the whcie weekender soon.
Drink Red wine by the BOTTLE its good for you and grow hairs on your chest. Beer is nearly as good. Rogie. Rogie.
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Deep Throat
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:16 pm
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| Flatop wrote: | | Shame that heritage tours are no longer using heritage loco's.Isnt this what people pay for. Not to have them on hire when these trips are being run. |
What you meant to say was:
| Flatop wrote: | | Shame that heritage tours are no longer using heritage loco's.Isnt this what a very small percentage of dribbling gunzels pay for. Not to have them on hire when these trips are being run to pay for the restoration of quite a few vehicles or to pay for TPWS in order for the heritage locos to be able to run to Geelong, or for modifications so unions won't knock them back. |
Anonymous - and proud of it.
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rjcas
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:26 am
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| Flatop wrote: | | Shame that heritage tours are no longer using heritage loco's.Isnt this what people pay for. Not to have them on hire when these trips are being run. |
From the Gunzels perspective yes and obviously you are one, if you are a passenger on the train, how often do you see the loco itself? If you look at the demographics, the passengers on board were mainly retirees, they honestly couldn't care less about what's upfront, there's other things we consider draw cards.
Ever tried pathing an 80km/h train thats capable of 115km/h? Operationally, it's much easier to use an N, and as stated previously, the loco isn't the draw card, it's the destination, the carriages and the experience. Hey, I've had one family in my carriage for the past 5 tours, that's saying something about your loco theory.
Gone to the Pub... I'll be home tomorrow night....
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:45 am
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I can see why SRHC use V/Line N classes, and for most tours it's fair enough. However, what is the point of spending all that time and effort restoring locomotives like T378 if they are never used on rail tours? SRHC may as well have given it a quick paint, fixed it up mechanically and not spent time cutting out the staff exchanger recesses or doing other heritage mods.
Considering that there are people out there (even if they are only a minority) that want to see these locos on tours and have the chance to ride behind them, surely one or two trips a year could be made into more of a special event and feature heritage locos on it rather than an N class, especially tours that don't cover RFR track, or use the wooden cars.
For example, T378 and T320 would have made a nice pair on the Tocumwal centenary tour, but instead T378 was down in Melbourne. For a centenary celebration surely a VR locomotive would have been more appropriate than an N class. It also would have doubled as a "welcome back T378" tour following its restoration. Instead T378 has re-entered service quietly with no chance for railfans to have a ride behind it and very little chance to see it.
Don't get me wrong, I think SRHC do a great job, but I also think Flatop has a point.
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wongm
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:51 pm
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I caught the train for part of the journey - my shots from the day are here:
http://wongm.fotopic.net/c1593568.html
It would have been nice if the N class didn't have the white band on the front. 
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vlocity160
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:13 pm
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Some nice photos people! Ended up following the train from Nth Shore to Camperdown, Pulled up at Nth shore looked in the rear vision mirror to see the train already coming so that stuffed that. Got shots at Birre, Warncoort and over at Camperdown. Shame a Blue and Gold loco couldn't have haulled the train.
Rock and Roll ain't noise pollution
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wongm
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:06 pm
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| S301 wrote: | | Got shots at Birre, Warncoort and over at Camperdown. Shame a Blue and Gold loco couldn't have haulled the train. |
I was considering chasing it, but the 115 km/h running cuts down on the number of photo spots you can get to. 
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A no 1
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:59 pm
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| Flatop wrote: | | Shame that heritage tours are no longer using heritage loco's.Isnt this what people pay for. Not to have them on hire when these trips are being run. |
They would run them but because they are not fitted with TPWS they can only run on the RFR at 80 kph
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rjcas
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:00 pm
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| VRfan wrote: | I can see why SRHC use V/Line N classes, and for most tours it's fair enough. However, what is the point of spending all that time and effort restoring locomotives like T378 if they are never used on rail tours? SRHC may as well have given it a quick paint, fixed it up mechanically and not spent time cutting out the staff exchanger recesses or doing other heritage mods.
Considering that there are people out there (even if they are only a minority) that want to see these locos on tours and have the chance to ride behind them, surely one or two trips a year could be made into more of a special event and feature heritage locos on it rather than an N class, especially tours that don't cover RFR track, or use the wooden cars.
For example, T378 and T320 would have made a nice pair on the Tocumwal centenary tour, but instead T378 was down in Melbourne. For a centenary celebration surely a VR locomotive would have been more appropriate than an N class. It also would have doubled as a "welcome back T378" tour following its restoration. Instead T378 has re-entered service quietly with no chance for railfans to have a ride behind it and very little chance to see it.
Don't get me wrong, I think SRHC do a great job, but I also think Flatop has a point. |
I agree with your thinking there James considering I am quite a gunzel myself  . From the Railfan in me, I'll admit I find it frustrating at times that we have to rely on V/Line stock. But you have to go back to the aims on what the SRHC is based upon.
The restoration of T378 was to pretty much give it a new lease of life, yes it did look shabby, and now it looks schmick. The purpose of the SRHC is to preserve rolling stock significant to Victoria, which in my mind has been achieved thus far and don't get me wrong, I would love to see the day we run a train with our locos, but economically, at this point in time, it's just not viable, more money is earned in loco lease than heritage tours.
To bring a loco back costs money, and to have our locos run a train, you'd have to balance that out with higher train fares etc. Where does one draw the line?
I can't exactly speak on behalf of the SRHC and I will stress that this is my own opinion, not that of the SRHC.
Gone to the Pub... I'll be home tomorrow night....
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Great photos there too Marcus!