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Rail car explosion today?

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NSWRTM123 Chief Commissioner   Joined: Nov 09, 2007
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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:10 pm
biqua wrote:
Don't get me wrong - I'm glad the exercise was done, just would have preferred that it had been another carriage, or that they would have had the foresight when scrapping the other first series carriages to set one or two aside for this sort of thing. Still, nothing we can do about it now ...

Perhaps when the L/R/S sets start being retired they should set a few aside for this sort of exercise that would otherwise be scrapped.

WHy not use one of the tullochs that were used in fire training, or as already stated, use one of the scrap cars, perhaps even a mock up of a H set or G set car?



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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:21 pm
NSWRTM123 wrote:
biqua wrote:
Don't get me wrong - I'm glad the exercise was done, just would have preferred that it had been another carriage, or that they would have had the foresight when scrapping the other first series carriages to set one or two aside for this sort of thing. Still, nothing we can do about it now ...

Perhaps when the L/R/S sets start being retired they should set a few aside for this sort of exercise that would otherwise be scrapped.

WHy not use one of the tullochs that were used in fire training, or as already stated, use one of the scrap cars, perhaps even a mock up of a H set or G set car?
That's the question that people have been asking. Why? Laughing

Nothing we can do about it now.

I've seen the photos of the collision, and umm....they uhh...look very...bad. Well the bus does. I agree with neety - I'd rather be on the V set if the bomb went off. The bus which had the bomb looks worst than twisted metal. The V set only had its sides bent and roof blown off.

But it's a right off - who'd want to go and repair a roof and sides on a non-operable car? Laughing
 
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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:42 pm
I think I'd prefer to be in the bus.

At least on the bus you'll be blown outside the bus to some sort of refuge if you survive, on the train you'd get slammed into the walls and kept captive within the carriage with all the smoke/fire.

Just remember, it may have with-stood the explosion, but thats even more explosion that your trapped inside the train with Wink

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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:09 am
flathog wrote:
I think I'd prefer to be in the bus.

At least on the bus you'll be blown outside the bus to some sort of refuge if you survive, on the train you'd get slammed into the walls and kept captive within the carriage with all the smoke/fire.

Just remember, it may have with-stood the explosion, but thats even more explosion that your trapped inside the train with Wink

Tom


not to mention you'd probably stand a better chance of getting out ! No locked doors or bulletproof glass to slow you down (or prevent you) from escaping



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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:20 am
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not to mention you'd probably stand a better chance of getting out ! No locked doors or bulletproof glass to slow you down (or prevent you) from escaping


Bullet proof glass? On a V set?



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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:09 pm
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Bullet proof glass? On a V set?


Or any set... I think ive worked on EVERY type of CityRail train now and they have all had broken windows.



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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:08 am
1979 wrote:
neety wrote:
Bullet proof glass? On a V set?


Or any set... I think ive worked on EVERY type of CityRail train now and they have all had broken windows.


Just look in the 4ft and 6ft at all the (V set) windows that are cracked after having been kicked out.



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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:05 pm
neety wrote:
Simes_mk2 wrote:

not to mention you'd probably stand a better chance of getting out ! No locked doors or bulletproof glass to slow you down (or prevent you) from escaping


Bullet proof glass? On a V set?


Oh sorry I was talking about the Tangbarges and all that - in otherwords trains in general, not just the venerable V set. Although V set doors lock now when closed don't they?



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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:17 pm
They always locked when closed? Unless the guard releases them for you to open yourselves.

I think some of us speculated on here that the original V windows which have the orange tinting (now very few of them left) were bulletproof, and proved a pain to break open when there was the Glenbrook incident occurred? Can't remember - too long ago...
 
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:21 am


Ouch
 
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:41 am
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Ouch

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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:09 pm
You haven't seen the bus yet. Wink Worst than the train. At least the train is recognisable still.
 
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:11 pm
Doesn't look too bad. if the frame isn't too bent, could it be repaired?



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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:11 pm
Apparently the explosion BOWED the chassis, Its well and truly smegged.

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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:28 pm
Ahh. Well that does mean the unit is absolutly smegged.

RIP



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