Refurbished railcars

 
  hosk1956 Deputy Commissioner

Location: no where near gunzels
Rail cars 3001, 3101 and 3102 went into traffic today, don't know what services they are running.

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  PAL Locomotive Driver

Have you changed the railcars from original? If so, how will we have an accurate representation at the NRM when they are retired!!!  Laughing
  cpdbear Assistant Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
The same as the Red Hens at the museum are not exactly the same as they where when they entered service. or GM2 or 930 or NSU or Budd car etc.
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
The first service that the refurbished railcar did was the 2:23pm Gawler train, all 3 cars operated the same service together.

I was on that service, riding in carriage 3102.

The seats are just like the ones on the MAN 18.280 HOCL-NL buses, and it's good that they finally have a electronic display to show what station is next, stopping pattern, etc. The voice is very strange though.
  hosk1956 Deputy Commissioner

Location: no where near gunzels
The first service that the refurbished railcar did was the 2:23pm Gawler train, all 3 cars operated the same service together.

I was on that service, riding in carriage 3102.

The seats are just like the ones on the MAN 18.280 HOCL-NL buses, and it's good that they finally have a electronic display to show what station is next, stopping pattern, etc. The voice is very strange though.
"greasyrhys"


The first service was to Noarlunga in the morning, they sit in Adelaide station during the day for driver/PSA training then do a Gawler run in the afternoon (the 2.23 Gawler evidently). This will be normal for a few days.
  Thornaby Chief Train Controller

The first service that the refurbished railcar did was the 2:23pm Gawler train
"greasyrhys"


Nah. They worked the 07:26 Noarlinga - Adelaide. I had 3101. Quite impressed in may ways - dunno if the cars had received upgrades to the motors but the pickup speed was very good. The seating reminded me a bit of the current UK trains - slightly too narrow and limited legroom. Overhead display matrices worked ok and the automated announcements were clear. Slightly too much volume on the door beeping though.

All in all it looks like they've done a good job.

Docked in Adelaide on Platform 7, not the usual side. Presumably this was to facilitate a Gawler departure later in the day.
  ET423 Train Controller

Location: Earth
i wonder if these trains will be running on the weekend, i might try and hunt them down Razz
  hosk1956 Deputy Commissioner

Location: no where near gunzels
i wonder if these trains will be running on the weekend, i might try and hunt them down Razz
"ET423"


Not running on the weekend.
  ET423 Train Controller

Location: Earth
anyone know when these trains will be operating this week? i wouldnt mind going for a ride  Very Happy
  2001 Moderator The Snow Lord

Location: The road jump at Charlotte Pass. Paxman Valenta on two planks.
From the Sunday Mail (22/11):

COMMUTERS on Adelaide's train network will be under unprecedented scrutiny as TransAdelaide boosts security under a $37 million upgrade.

TransAdelaide is installing up to six externally facing CCTV cameras on each of its 3000 and 3100 class trains under a three-year refurbishment project to improve safety and modernise the 70-railcar fleet.

The cameras, equipped with high-definition digital recording, will capture images from the side, front and rear of the railcars.

The cameras are in addition to the existing four internal CCTV units on-board the trains. And in a further beefing up of security, all cameras will be linked to a monitor in the driver's cabin, enabling the operator to view real-time footage, increasing response times to incidents.

But under the retro-fit program the number of seats on each carriage will be reduced by nine to allow for increased disability access.

The first of the upgraded diesel-electric trains went into service during the week, with all upgrades expected to be completed by 2012.

Among other new features of the trains are:

EMERGENCY call buttons next to doors to allow passengers to speak to the drivers.

NEW passenger information display panels at each end of the railcar and automated audio announcements.

IMPROVED hand straps, seat grips and new bike stow areas with attachment rails.

A NEW digital public address system with better audio.

PUSH-BUTTON automated doors to prevent them being forced open while the train is in motion.

New barriers are also being installed between carriages to allow people to change carriages without leaving the train.

TransAdelaide had permanently locked doors between carriages in April 2007 after a passenger fell to his death from a moving train at Coromandel Valley.

All upgrades are being done by Bombardier Transportation, and have been funded by the State Government.

Transport Minister Patrick Conlon said the refurbished trains would make using public transport more enjoyable and comfortable.

"What we see today is the future of public transport," he said of the new railcars. TransAdelaide general manager Bob Stobbe said the extra cameras would improve safety and allow drivers to monitor passengers.

"Security and safety is always something people focus on," he said.
  Halo Chief Train Controller

Me too, I wanna ride one too, please mommy, can I, can I?
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
The first service that the refurbished railcar did was the 2:23pm Gawler train
"greasyrhys"


Nah. They worked the 07:26 Noarlinga - Adelaide. I had 3101. Quite impressed in may ways - dunno if the cars had received upgrades to the motors but the pickup speed was very good. The seating reminded me a bit of the current UK trains - slightly too narrow and limited legroom. Overhead display matrices worked ok and the automated announcements were clear. Slightly too much volume on the door beeping though.

All in all it looks like they've done a good job.

Docked in Adelaide on Platform 7, not the usual side. Presumably this was to facilitate a Gawler departure later in the day.
"Thornaby"



I guess I was wrong then, it operated on the Gawler line for the first time.

I have to admit, the refurbishment DOES make the poxes look a lot better, can't wait to ride it again.

I did take a photo of the interior of 3102, but I don't know how to put it on this page. I won't worry about it, too late.
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

I wonder if Media Mike has tested the seats yet?
  Halo Chief Train Controller

Spent half my afternoon trying to catch one of the refurbs, can anyone confirm what runs they are doing? My feet are killing me, and I only left coz security started looking at me strangly!
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
Halo they might have thought you were someone else! Laughing
  ET423 Train Controller

Location: Earth
Spent half my afternoon trying to catch one of the refurbs, can anyone confirm what runs they are doing? My feet are killing me, and I only left coz security started looking at me strangly!
"Halo"


could try asking TransAdelaide either send in an email or go into their little office at the railway station and inquire there, thats what i indend to do, rather than runing around trying to find the right train or actually catch it by chance.
  Halo Chief Train Controller

I wondered that, but thought they may think im up to something.
  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
I wondered that, but thought they may think im up to something.
"Halo"


Lucky you didn't have a camera with a 400mm lens, clipboard and high viz vest... They'd have called the men with the oversized butterfly nets and straight jackets...
  Tonsley213 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Everywhere except South Kensington
So what service are the Refurbished cars on?
  2001 Moderator The Snow Lord

Location: The road jump at Charlotte Pass. Paxman Valenta on two planks.
People are asking "on which service ?" are/will the new refurbs be running.

TransAdelaide would obviously have a railcar roster for all services. Logic suggests this would indicate the railcar class, and number of railcars on each service.

As for the Fleet Number of each railcar in the consist, that would not be pre-determined. In other words, the railcars would come from the stock available at the time, at whatever railcar depot they are drawn from. (Adelaide, Lonsdale, Gawler)
  ET423 Train Controller

Location: Earth
People will get to ride them eventually..

if it takes 10-15 days to refurbish 1 carriage, then it will take approximatly 2 years to refurbish the entire fleet.

and by then they will probably need to be converted to electric.
  2001 Moderator The Snow Lord

Location: The road jump at Charlotte Pass. Paxman Valenta on two planks.
Guys, I've taken the posts and photos about the track vehicles at Oaklands, and placed them into a new thread :

http://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11353924.htm
  pcorf Chief Train Controller

So what service are the Refurbished cars on?
"Tonsley213"


The 2000s and 3000s run certain services but with the fleet numbers its all random and just luck. And a 3100 set probably takes twice as long to refurb than a single 3000.
  sr1180 Locomotive Fireman

A report from a mate who caught a refurbished train this morning (on the noarlunga line):


Got to catch a refurbished train today…pretty good. Airline style of seats, and digital signs saying next stop is….


Only problem – it ran an hour late due to driver locking his keys in cabin….
  nm39 Chief Commissioner

Location: By a road taking pictures
I rode on 3110 last week. Very nice. The airline style seats mean you don't have to knock knees with a person facing you. The push button door opening system similar to 2000class is nice touch.

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