All this was aside from the driver who couldn't offer a smooth stop if his life depended on it, and after departure from each station the train was bunched up so each start was with a jerk as the train stretched out its 4 cars.

All this was aside from the driver who couldn't offer a smooth stop if his life depended on it, and after departure from each station the train was bunched up so each start was with a jerk as the train stretched out its 4 cars.

It's comments like these that make me realise that ignorance is indeed bliss. I'd pay to see you stop 460 tons of train. I do sincerly hope the next thing you smeg about bites you in the smeg one day.

All this was aside from the driver who couldn't offer a smooth stop if his life depended on it, and after departure from each station the train was bunched up so each start was with a jerk as the train stretched out its 4 cars.

It's comments like these that make me realise that ignorance is indeed bliss. I'd pay to see you stop 460 tons of train. I do sincerly hope the next thing you smeg about bites you in the smeg one day.

Thank you for your comments

Agreed, I'm told VLocity's are much easier to drive than loco hauled trains. But this doesn't explain the differing track quality between the two rail lines.

However a good friend of mine who is a V/Line big wheel driver of many years can pull up a loco hauled N set, without a rough stop and stretched to eliminate a rough start and maintain schedule.

Moreover he instructs his pupils to do the same. No ignorance here, maaaate.

Mike.

PS, If you're available for re-training as a pax driver, I'm sure he could assist in this regard.    

[Could all this be the seemingly poor condition of the Bendigo line, the ACN car set needing an overhaul or just the superior riding quality offered in the VLocity cars, or a combination of the above.

Must run and get my violin, someone's offended.

However a good friend of mine who is a V/Line big wheel driver of many years can pull up a loco hauled N set, without a rough stop and stretched to eliminate a rough start and maintain schedule.

Moreover he instructs his pupils to do the same. No ignorance here, maaaate.

Mike.

PS, If you're available for re-training as a pax driver, I'm sure he could assist in this regard.

From what I remember in the RFR Bendigo and Ballarat lines were done by different contractors although I know from observation the Bendigo line had as much work put in it as Ballarat.

However a good friend of mine who is a V/Line big wheel driver of many years can pull up a loco hauled N set, without a rough stop and stretched to eliminate a rough start and maintain schedule.

Moreover he instructs his pupils to do the same. No ignorance here, maaaate.

Mike.

PS, If you're available for re-training as a pax driver, I'm sure he could assist in this regard.  

No one said experience wasn't the key to a good stop, but for you to judge when you were not up the front is bullsmeg. He might've had any number of braking issues that might've caused him to bring it in rough.

Typical know it all.  

That being the case, the driver, knowing the pax are his bread and butter, and mindful of their travelling comfort particularly in the ACN would advise the conductor to announce the rough starts and stops were unavoidable due to a mechanical fault.

No announcement was made in this regard.

 Ohh that's right, pax are just a damn nuisance, little better than cattle really, and get in the way of the driver playing trains

Mike.    

Ohh that's right, pax are just a damn nuisance, little better than cattle really, and get in the way of the driver playing trains

However a good friend of mine who is a V/Line big wheel driver of many years can pull up a loco hauled N set, without a rough stop and stretched to eliminate a rough start and maintain schedule.

Moreover he instructs his pupils to do the same. No ignorance here, maaaate.

Mike.

PS, If you're available for re-training as a pax driver, I'm sure he could assist in this regard.  

No one said experience wasn't the key to a good stop, but for you to judge when you were not up the front is bullsmeg. He might've had any number of braking issues that might've caused him to bring it in rough.

Typical know it all.  

That being the case, the driver, knowing the pax are his bread and butter, and mindful of their travelling comfort particularly in the ACN would advise the conductor to announce the rough starts and stops were unavoidable due to a mechanical fault.

No announcement was made in this regard.

 Ohh that's right, pax are just a damn nuisance, little better than cattle really, and get in the way of the driver playing trains

Mike.    

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However a good friend of mine who is a V/Line big wheel driver of many years can pull up a loco hauled N set, without a rough stop and stretched to eliminate a rough start and maintain schedule.

Moreover he instructs his pupils to do the same. No ignorance here, maaaate.

Mike.

PS, If you're available for re-training as a pax driver, I'm sure he could assist in this regard.  

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However a good friend of mine who is a V/Line big wheel driver of many years can pull up a loco hauled N set, without a rough stop and stretched to eliminate a rough start and maintain schedule.

Moreover he instructs his pupils to do the same. No ignorance here, maaaate.

Mike.

PS, If you're available for re-training as a pax driver, I'm sure he could assist in this regard.  

Interesting, none of the big wheel drivers at Vline are instructors.  Which part above in red is wrong?

Just a question so don't start abusing me, what line were you travelling on? Because if you were travelling on the "east" line (platform 1 at stations between Kyneton and Clarkefield) then it would certainly have experienced rough riding as it was not upgraded to RFR standards. Also remember that N sets are quite a few years older than VLocities. I think it would be better to compare the two if you ride both lines with a VLocity (I don't think N sets have run Ballarat services in a few years now).

 

Err Buttscratcher, Mike was explainig his trip, and he stated along the lines that at every station,  was rough entering and leaving. Now since I wasn't on the trip I'm quite happy to take Mikes word for it.Unless you were there, or you were the driver, STFU

Well, we've all learnt one lesson.
Don't criticise a driver or fast01 goes off his tree.

Err Buttscratcher, Mike was explainig his trip, and he stated along the lines that at every station,  was rough entering and leaving. Now since I wasn't on the trip I'm quite happy to take Mikes word for it.Unless you were there, or you were the driver, STFU

And he has no explaination except to automatically blame the driver. And since his only experience is word of mouth, he has no right to judge/critisise unless he can back what he up.

Public forum mate, I'll say whatever the hell I want.