Southport and Tweed Heads Railway Line

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Broadgauge Station Master

Location: Melbourne - Victoria
I was just wondering if anyone knows, or could provide, a complete list of the passenger stations on the old narrow gauge Southport and Tweed Heads railway lines in Queensland.
 
Spletsie Assistant Commissioner

There was a feature on this line in the October 2001 edition of Australian Railway Historical Society Bulletin. It's worth trying to track it down, perhaps through the ARHS in your state.
The article contains working timetable extracts and a map showing all of the stations from South Brisbane to Tweed Heads. The stations are:
South Brisbane
Dutton Park
Yeronga
Yeerongpilly
Rocklea
Coopers Plains
Sunnybank
Runcorn
Kuraby
Woodridge
Kingston
Logan lea
Bethania
Holmview
Beenleigh
Stapylton
Ormeau
Pimpana
Coomera
Dremford
Helensvale
Ernest Jct
Melandiner
Nerang
Worangary
Mudgeeraba
West Burleigh
Elanora
Currumbin
Tugun
Billinga
Kirra
Coolangatta
Tweed Heads

Ernest Jct is where the line branches to Southport; there are no intermediate stations between the junction and terminus.
 
Broadgauge Station Master

Location: Melbourne - Victoria
Thanks for that information, much appreciated.

I will also definitely try and look up that particular article too if I can find it.
 
GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

Location: In a FAM sleeper
Thanks for that Spletsie
 
petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Enjoying dinner onboard the QGR
Spletsie thanks for the time typing that station list from Rod Milne's Tweed Heads article in the October 2001 edition of Australian Railway Historical Society's Bulletin.

Sadly Rod Milne's article contains spelling errors with regard to some of the names of stations on the map on page 366. Dremford should be Oxenford, Melandiner should be Molendinar, there is only one l in Bilinga.

See http://freespace.virgin.net/johnk.pb15/tweed.htm

There are also several stations missing from Rod Milne's list as the original poster asked for a complete list of the passenger stations on the old narrow gauge Southport and Tweed Heads railway lines in Queensland.

Eventually one of us will add the missing stations to Spletsie's list when time permits. If readers want them earlier so the Google Earth locations at http://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11349045.htm

In the mean time if anyone wants more data on the line buy Brian Webber’s “Exploring Queensland’s Railways - South from Brisbane”. It has pages of date that will help.  
http://www.railshop.com.au/prod15.htm

A quick google of Railpage will also reveal all the many other threads that cover this line and they will also reveal more historical data. Many of the previous Railpage threads also have maps and diagrams.

There was a feature on this line in the October 2001 edition of Australian Railway Historical Society Bulletin. It's worth trying to track it down, perhaps through the ARHS in your state.
The article contains working timetable extracts and a map showing all of the stations from South Brisbane to Tweed Heads. The stations are:
South Brisbane
Dutton Park
Yeronga
Yeerongpilly
Rocklea
Coopers Plains
Sunnybank
Runcorn
Kuraby
Woodridge
Kingston
Logan lea
Bethania
Holmview
Beenleigh
Stapylton
Ormeau
Pimpana
Coomera
Dremford
Helensvale
Ernest Jct
Melandiner
Nerang
Worangary
Mudgeeraba
West Burleigh
Elanora
Currumbin
Tugun
Billinga
Kirra
Coolangatta
Tweed Heads

Ernest Jct is where the line branches to Southport; there are no intermediate stations between the junction and terminus.
- Spletsie
 
petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Enjoying dinner onboard the QGR
I was just wondering if anyone knows, or could provide, a complete list of the passenger stations on the old narrow gauge Southport and Tweed Heads railway lines in Queensland.
- Broadgauge

Broadgauge, do you want the Brisbane suburban stations as well or just south of the outer suburbia areas eg past Kuraby?
 
petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Enjoying dinner onboard the QGR
Spletsie,
I see your list also fixed another error in Rod Milne's list of stations on his map on page 366 of his October 2001 article. Rod Milne had Tugun after Bilinga and he left out Kirra.

The missing stations are mainly in the suburban area so, unless the original poster wants the suburban stations as well, then your list is OK. Apart from Rod Milne's spelling of the stations as earlier noted.

There were other earlier stations south of Beenleigh; Reedy Creek closed 1934, Coombabah closed 1891 and Yatala closed 1891. Data from Brian Webber's book as noted earlier.

There was a feature on this line in the October 2001 edition of Australian Railway Historical Society Bulletin. It's worth trying to track it down, perhaps through the ARHS in your state.
The article contains working timetable extracts and a map showing all of the stations from South Brisbane to Tweed Heads. The stations are:
Beenleigh
Stapylton
Ormeau
Pimpana
Coomera
Dremford
Helensvale
Ernest Jct
Melandiner
Nerang
Worangary
Mudgeeraba
West Burleigh
Elanora
Currumbin
Tugun
Billinga
Kirra
Coolangatta
Tweed Heads

Ernest Jct is where the line branches to Southport; there are no intermediate stations between the junction and terminus.
- Spletsie
 
drwaddles In need of a breath mint

Location: Newcastle
How does an article get published in ARH with such errors in it?!
 
petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Enjoying dinner onboard the QGR
How does an article get published in ARH with such errors in it?!
- drwaddles

Thus John Knowles' corrections website http://freespace.virgin.net/johnk.pb15/index.htm
 
Broadgauge Station Master

Location: Melbourne - Victoria
Having an interest in disused and abandoned railway lines what I am looking for, on this occasion, was a list of the stations on the now closed narrow gauge lines.

To clarify the section I am most interested in is the formation of the old narrow gauge line to Tweed Heads and the branch line to Southport.

That is from the point where the old line left the present day electrified standard gauge Gold Coast railway to Robina at Beenleigh, then continued on south along its own rail corridor most of which is now occupied by the Pacific Motorway.
 
M636C Minister for Railways

How does an article get published in ARH with such errors in it?!
- drwaddles


Easily....

I wrote extensive corrections for the articles on VR steam locomotives in the 1930s. They were not published because there is an absolute limit of 250 words on any comment or correction...

When I asked why things hadn't been checked I was told they had been...

I had checked and corrected some articles (one by Rod Milne) previously for ARH on request, so sometimes the system works.

M636C
 
petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Enjoying dinner onboard the QGR
Having an interest in disused and abandoned railway lines what I am looking for, on this occasion, was a list of the stations on the now closed narrow gauge lines.

To clarify the section I am most interested in is the formation of the old narrow gauge line to Tweed Heads and the branch line to Southport.

That is from the point where the old line left the present day electrified standard gauge Gold Coast railway to Robina at Beenleigh, then continued on south along its own rail corridor most of which is now occupied by the Pacific Motorway.
- Broadgauge

Several Railpage threads will help.
http://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11359413-0-asc-s0.htm
http://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11348803-0-asc-s0.htm

I am not sure if you followed my previous suggestion of the Google Earth locations at http://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11349045.htm
which leads to http://www.railpage.com.au/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=21

The Google Earth 2009-03-19 download should be OK as I have noticed the 15-Jun-2010 download is sometimes not available for download.

That Google Earth plug in is really the best  Very HappyVery HappyVery Happy  [Did I use enough smiley items to make the point that Hairyleg's work is really the answer you seek for your stated interest in all disused and abandoned railway lines?]

If you do use Hairyleg's Google Earth then the red lines are the original and the blue are the the present day electric lines. You also will notice the red and blue lines do not follow the same route south from around Ormeau, although they are close in places.

My own family's http://www.petan.net/railway/sthcoast.htm and http://www.petan.net/railway/southportC17.htm may help.

There have been many more Railpage threads on this topic then these few examples but they will be a good start and a google of Railpage will supply the others.

Hairyleg's work will also help if your interest in disused and abandoned railway lines extends to throughout the state and other parts of Australia. It also shows former tramway routes eg Canungra and Beaudesert etc
 
petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Enjoying dinner onboard the QGR
Having an interest in disused and abandoned railway lines what I am looking for was a list of the stations on the now closed narrow gauge lines.
- Broadgauge

Broadgauge, maybe if you have access to back copies of the ARHS Bulletin  / ARH then you can locate articles on your desired  disused and abandoned railway lines eg Canungra, Boonah and Beaudesert etc

The Bulletin / ARH online index is
http://www.nswrail.net/search/bulletin.php

Search Railpage for previous threads on your desired line eg Canungra, Boonah and Beaudesert etc and see what has already been offered up to the Railpage community. I see you have been a Railpage member for a while so "go forth" and ask away...

If our Tweed Heads/ Southport replies have not pointed you in the right direction, ask again...
 
duttonbay Minister for Railways

How does an article get published in ARH with such errors in it?!
- drwaddles


Easily....

I wrote extensive corrections for the articles on VR steam locomotives in the 1930s. They were not published because there is an absolute limit of 250 words on any comment or correction...
- M636C


That's a pity. Did you suggest it could be published as a follow-up article, rather than as a correction? It does seem strange that a publication which is considered to be a worthy historical journal won't take anything more than trivial corrections, but I do remember the pages and pages of letters of corrections, comments, statements of fact and of opinion, mostly related to QLD, which I believe caused this arbitrary limit to be applied.
 
Broadgauge Station Master

Location: Melbourne - Victoria
Thanks for all the replies plus links to other websites and yes they were all helpful.  

In the past I have browsed through variolous back issues of the ARHSB at the Melbourne State Library but intend to do so again as I seem to have forgotten or missed some articles.

The Google Earth route map overlay is interesting to look at and quite useful for research but still a bit limited in its overall scope. I have found something similar on a New Zealand Railway mapping website that not only shows the route of all railway lines, both current and abandoned, but also every bridge, tunnel goods siding and most important station. It is quite comprehensive and well worth a look if you are interested in New Zealand railway lines.
 
Zen Dave Junior Train Controller

Location: Canberra - Q2
Eventually one of us will add the missing stations
- petan

The numbers were the station numbers used on tickets and parcels stamps.

520 South Brisbane (construction name Melbourne Street)
150 Expo
546 Vulture Street > South Bank
(tunnel)
522 Gloucester Street (closed 1978-11-06)
521 Park Road
(junction for Cleveland branch)
(junction for the Loop)
(Boggo Junction - for the original line to Stanley Street)
565 Boggo Junction > Dutton Park
(one end of deviation)
118 Fairfield (originally on the pre-deviation line)
(other end of deviation)
119 Yeronga
117 Logan Junction > South Coast Junction > Yeerongpilly
(junction for original line to Corinda)
(junction for fork line)
307 Moorooka (1693 Clapham parallel - almost)
265 Rocklea
(Brisbane Blue Metal Company siding)
596 Evans Deakin Foundry Stopping Place > Nyanda (closed 1978-11-19)
183 Salisbury
(junction to Acacia Ridge)
(Babbidge's siding)
264 Cooper's Plains
1095 Banoon
263 Sunnybank
1739 Altandi
260 Runcorn
(Bonemill siding > Ordnance siding > Navy Siding > W.A. Franklin siding) closed 1950-10-01
464 Bonemill siding > Tarragun (closed 1890-09-01)
(Bonemill siding)
(W.A. Franklin siding > Bradford and Kendall siding)
784 Fruitgrove
259 Spring Creek > Kuraby
34 14 Mile 48 Chain > Booran > Trinder Park
1199 15 Mile siding > Woodridge
(Kingston's siding)
(Tramway Construction Company siding)
256 Kingston
262 Loganlea
Logan River West bank terminus 1887-01 to 1888-03-15
(Overend Bridge - three different structures)
Logan River East bank terminus 1887-01 to 1888-03-15
156 Bethania Junction > Bethania
(junction for Beaudesert branch)
(junction for fork line)
306 Hawthorn (closed 1891-05-01)
??? Eden's Landing (opened 1985-01-25
147 Holmview (original location, closed 1978-11-19, sometimes claimed as "Holm's Halt")
??? Holmview-Beenleigh > Holmview (current location, opened 1987-03-08)
157 Beenleigh (1st location, closed 1987-03-08)
(tunnel)
157 Beenleigh (current location, opened 1988-03-12)
(Beenleigh Distillery siding, originally 2'0" gauge)
(Albert River)
423 Yatala (closed 1891-05-01)
424 Stapylton
425 Pimpana > 426 Ormeau
426 Hotham > 425 Pimpana
427 Coomera
428 39 Mile Platform > Oxenford
429 Helensvale
430 Coombabah (closed 1891-05-01)
(tunnel)
431 Southport Junction > Ernest Junction
(junction for Southport)
: (junction for fork line)
: (Showgrounds Loading Bank)
: 432 Southport
(junction for fork line)
465 Benowa > Molendinar
(Nerang Mill siding)
(Earthenware Pipes Ltd siding)
466 Nerang
(Standard Dairy Co's siding)
292 Worongary
209 Mudgeeraba
1078 Reedy Creek
(tunnel)
47 Booningba > Burleigh > West Burleigh (aka Burleigh West)
1459 Elanora
681 Currumbin
732 Flat Rock Stopping Place > Tugun
1398 Bilinga
(Vacuum Oil siding)
1703 Kirra
861 Coolangatta
(QLD/NSW border)
648 Tweed Heads

Sourced mainly from Destination South Brisbane.

Station numbers south of Nerang were recycled (which means they're no help with working out when the station opened.  Number 47 was originally Victoria (probably at Victoria Tunnel) on the Main Line between Grandchester and Laidley, then West Burleigh, then Jurema between Emerald and Clermont.

There were disputes about which settlement had the right to be called Pimpana.  Eventually the southern village won, and claimed the name.  The station numbers also swapped.

[EDIT: Smilies disabled so that 1) reads "1" then ")"]
 
petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Enjoying dinner onboard the QGR
Eventually one of us will add the missing stations
- petan

The numbers were the station numbers used on tickets and parcels stamps.
- Zen Dave

Many thanks for that very extensive list plus the extra station number bits  Very HappyVery Happy
 
Broadgauge Station Master

Location: Melbourne - Victoria
Thanks to all for this new and insightful information sharing.

Out of sheer coincidence just the other day I found and bought an old back issue of the Oct 2001 Australian Railway Historical Society Bulletin at the Railfan shop for only two dollars.
The article about the Tweed Heads railway line makes for an interesting read, and yes I agree with the author about what a shame it was that the line was prematurely closed, the photos are also quite excellent.
The only down side, for me, is the fact that there are only two stations yard diagrams provided, namely Tweed Heads and Coolangatta. It would have been an even better article if a few more of them along the whole line could have been included as well.
 

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