Formally known as the Northern and Southern Abutments
Due to this weekends weather forecast the work on road bridge on seaford rd has been cancelled . So the road is open to traffic .
Knew I forgot something when I posted..
Rain and asphalt laying don't really mix. Was looking forward to a bit of double bubble.
There are plans for more work on the Northern Abutment tomorrow despite the weather.
Detours for River Road will be set up and an assessment will be made tomorrow weather to proceed.
Sorry to be a possible nuisance on this thread but have only discoverd the sites when searching information about the Goodwood Willunga line . As I am new to this type of thing please be gentle on me and if you can direct me to the correct thread it would be much apprieciated ( correct spelling ???).
My intial query is there available on any site the complete time table for the Adelaide to Willunga line from the date of opening until very recent ?
Being born in Edwardston and lived most of my younger days travelling on this line since single line operation there are some things I need to clear up to confirm my memory.
I dont know if this thread is still active as I have not received any response for the time table info . My second query if some one can assist as follows . When the Christies line was being extended about the time that the Jumbos were being introduced I noticed that turn outs were installed between Emerson and Clarence Pk stations with appropriate signals installed . I have read in other threads that this was to be used for dual running or something like that . Can any one explain how this system would have worked on this line . The cross overs were removed after some time and the line reverted to normal running . Before I moved to Perth I used this line very many years to and from the city .
I recall the crossovers at Emerson and also at Oaklands and Hallett Cove.
The idea was for bidirectional running but as far as I know the signalling was never commissioned. The signals controlling the bang road between Brighton and Hallett Cove were turned oblique to the track so they couldn't be seen by drivers.
Bi dirctional running would have allowed express trains to overtake stopping trains. It seems to be used a lot in the USA where there is double track, almost like two single lines in parallel. I recall similar experiences of wrong road running in Europe.
The only times I have run wrong road in SA is once when the subway was being built at Waradale when a pilot man was used for safeworking between Brighton and Oaklands and behind 621 on a Southern Encounter between Eden Hills and Blackwood when the up track was being rebuilt.
Many thanks Ian you have cleared up a long time mystery to me as no one up to now seemed to know much if anything about this layout .
Do you know if the bi directional running would have been connected with the Tonsley line connection which would have been at the same time .
I could see where both the cross over from the city would have commenced just before and after Emerson , but cannot see where the reverse would have been on the down line , I think the cross overs at Edwardstown were still in place, the next place would have been where the Tonsley line joined the up line ,and the third place would have been at Oaklands where there was also cross overs.
The reverse of this on any up trains would have been at Hallett Cove, Oaklands, Edwardston, and finally at the Emerson /Clarence park .
It would be interesting to confirm if this Idea actually was serious or just another good Idea that just got to hard at the time . The Sydney Lithgow line has many cross overs and I have been on trains from Katoomba that ran down on up lines and visa versa many times especially on Sunday services when track work was in progress .
As mentioned I have used this line from a small child , when single line running was in use and how Edwardstown was a crossover for many services . We got to know the crews very well . These were the days of the majic of railways and innocence .
Welcome to the Forumboards.
This is the thread you should find useful :
Feel welcome to post in it, as it is a 'perennial' thread.
That thread is dedicated to questions and discussion on the history of the Willunga Line, however this thread should be used for the topic of the Seaford Rail Extension project.
Thank you for this info .So I should place all my queries to the Willunga line thread from now on ?I have several questions regarding the Willunga line especially in regards to items regarding Edwardstown Pengally works spur and other items .Regards
Sure go for it !
Actually in that thread there is a link to a page showing yard diagrams of the stations along the line.
Back to the subject of the Seaford line work as it been off topic for the last few post. the Old honeypot road bridge is open again to road traffic so look like its finish and the bridge over the Onkapringa river getting further out over the Valley and from the Noarlunga side the bridge is over the river road side.
Old Honeypot Rd will be closed again later in 2012 for a period of time, don't quote me but I believe it will be a couple of months.
Track laying has also begun south of the Onka bridge, towards the section mentioned in a previous post.
Why is the North part of the bridge taking so long to move out?
Saw some the tracks laying in seaford on a NearMap its updated on 21 December 2011.
http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-35.174179,1 ... d=20111221
Your awesome Trainfan, some of us cannot get up there to have a look. Thanks.
Pity about the caption relating to the bridge.
The beams are out to the forth pier. A Pylon by engineering definition is a lightweight lattice structure or tower principally associated with airfield beacons. Unforunately prudish media editorial staff have used the word instead of piles when discussing the vertical supporting members of jetties and wharves. Common usage does not mnake this use a correct engineering term.
Unlike some who are a pain in the backside piers are very happy to sit on piles.
most of the track is laid down from the other side of Goldsmith drive to the southern part of the bridge over the Onkapringa River now . The bridge/Viduct is almost half way over the river. on the seaford side of the onka river more works are going on might have to go for a drive this long weekend and take some pictures if only i knew how to post them on here lol.
In the last week I went on a tour of this site and we were told that an aboriginal burial site was uncovered during excavation of the cutting adjacent the Northern Abutment. As a result the local Kaurna Elders were consulted and the remains were reinterred with the required ceremony at a nearby location. A good outcome for all.
Here is some Pictures from 28th march. From my observations not much changes for about a week, then lots of changes happen at once.
When i last saw the works, tracks was laid from Goldsmith drive overpass to the Old Honeypot rd bridge. (Stacks of sleepers between Noarlunga Centre and the Goldsmith Drve overpass ready to be laid). Track laid from the northern end of the depot at Seaford meadows to the Seaford Meadows Station. Seaford Meadows station was getting the overpass and stair/ramp support structures erected. Workers were re-enforcing the walls under the Seaford Rd Bridge. Seaford Station was getting the Lift wells and Platform faces installed and the carpark area was being levelled.
The meeting point of the Bridge Structures
Steel Sleepered Points inside Seaford Depot.
Some Photo's from work's Today
Thanks for those photos, it's very interesting to see the Seaford line progressing.
WOULD a local be able to inform me as to the progress of electrification across the network? I noticed in the some months ago in the Gawler reconstruction thread that some of the poles for the overhead gantry had started going up - have they started to do this on any other lines (like the Noarlunga line?). Also, I wasn't sure when the reconstruction of the Oaklands-City section was being done, I couldn't locate anything on the SA Dept of Transport website and a quick trawl through the threads on Railpage didn't get a result either... would that be later this year at a guess?
Heard that the Oaklands to city section is getting done after christmas this year could be from brighton to city section as from brighton to oaklands there is still part where wooden sleepers are. as for electification project it is on hold at the moment as laing'O'Roke are doing a pit and piping job on the Tonsley line to do with the Signaling. Back to the Seaford line work at the end of Noarlunga Centre plaforms laid track down to Goldsmith drive bridge today.
don_dunstan, the department site says the Noarlunga line work is being planned at the moment and will start around midyear.
http://www.infrastructure.sa.gov.au/RR/ ... l/schedule