Waratah Updates

 
  daveh_oz Junior Train Controller

A9 currently sitting in 3 road. Crew familiarisation for the next week or 2. At this stage official start date for a sets up on sector 3 are for 665 run from the 30th march.
"Highrise"



What time does the 665 leave Hornsby for those not familuar with run  numbers?

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  Odd_Alex Locomotive Driver

Location: Newcastle, Australia
A9 currently sitting in 3 road. Crew familiarisation for the next week or 2. At this stage official start date for a sets up on sector 3 are for 665 run from the 30th march.
"Highrise"



What time does the 665 leave Hornsby for those not familuar with run  numbers?
"daveh_oz"


I Worked part of 665 on friday..
So Part of the run (665H) Arrives at Hornsby at 1316, into Turnback 1, back to the platform 1333, through ECRL, arriving at Central 1432, up to Epping at 1507 leaving at 1512 for the return trip..
 
  Festivus Station Master

Location: Sydney, Australia
A9 spotted in the turnback sidings at Hornsby about 5 minutes ago.
Oh, is that the 3 road? If so carry on. 
  R44 Chief Commissioner

Location: Moving paper
Thats odd. A9 was at Maintrain earlier today (5:30-6 ish)
  Black1050 Chief Train Controller

Location: Out of the Metrop
Did not get a chance look closer, so unable to verify which set number, but there was what appeared to be a Waratah in the Hornsby's UP Yard this morning about 0615.  Fairly certain there is no OSCAR tabled to be in there at that time.  My Guess is that it was: (A SET) TEST TRAINS TRAIN FAMILIARISATION for Hornsby Crews, and it will be travelling there each day this week.  My Guess is that it was A8 that was there, as previously pointed out A9 was at AMF at around the same time.
  oren Junior Train Controller

Location: OSCAR set H1
Actually Black1050 it was set A9.

Managed to get a pic of it at Meadowbank.

[img]http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7191/6934783795_9ee79a8bcf_z.jpg[/img]
http://www.flickr.com/photos/theflyingoreo/6934783795/

From the looks of it, its almost ready for service?
  A78 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Banned
I actually can't wait for the waratahs as it would be a regular occurrence seeing the waratahs constantly AND noone will whinge that their train has no airconditionining. And it will make me more want to catch a C & T sets
  oren Junior Train Controller

Location: OSCAR set H1
Returning home from Day 2 at HMC

http://www.flickr.com/photos/theflyingoreo/6937722267/
  Black1050 Chief Train Controller

Location: Out of the Metrop
Oren - I stand corrected, and I will definitely agree/concur that it is A9 - particularly as I saw it about a minute before you took that photo.  
Looking into it a bit deeper it appears A9 leaves AMF somewhere around 0542am for Hornsby.
  PDCL Chief Train Controller

The more wobbly ride of A5, and the observed discolouration around the welds by another user got me thinking - is it a bit of a dud perchance, that lead to the reported more recent improvements in quality control? 
"biqua"


Not that I know of. The "smoothness" of the ride is down to the airbags (one per bogie), which are supplied by Hitachi as part of the traction system I believe.  I'm not sure why one set would feel different than another, other than perhaps the number of passengers on board or the train running on a different line.
"piepants"


Could be the passenger thing, but was the same line so unless they have done trackwork it rules that out. Perception is also very subjective to the point where my two journeys being weeks apart could have altered my perception - the seats also seemed a tad more comfortable for example, where they would be stock also.
"biqua"


Had a ride on A5 earlier today and yesterday, can't say I noticed any discomfort or unusual motion with the ride.  What I did notice were the weld marks along the body, which seem new as I don't remember seeing any of them when A5 first cam out and they are quite obvious.  The other thing, today I was riding in N5505 (in the vestibule at the closer to the middle of the train), what I suppose were the motors sounded positively sick.  On both acceleration and braking the sound they were making was, well the only think I can think of that is similar is the sound made when you extend or retract the flaps on an airliner, a quite loud almost drill like sound.  Didn't seem to be affecting performance any, as we were accelerating like a bat out of hell and braking was all quite smooth also.  It did seem like we were going a lot harder and faster out of stations, which seems rather distinct from my previous experience with the A-sets, where I would have said the acceleration performance displayed was fairly average.  What I saw today was certainly not average and was amongst some of the better acceleration I have seen around the world (including many single deck systems).

Has A5 been tinkered with at all, perhaps playing with some different set-ups to test performance?
  mattb27j Chief Commissioner

Location: Berowra
Does anybody have the timetable for the run out of Hornsby?
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
Does anybody have the timetable for the run out of Hornsby?
"mattb27j"


I don't want to jynx it, but may I suggest that as the publicity for the "first Waratah on Sector 3" will be beneficial for RailCorp/NSW Government, they *might* publish it on their website, as they did when the first Waratah entered service? Wait and see? 
  icdog Train Controller

Location: Smegville
A10 was out a Sulphide Jct today bedding in the brakes.
  boxythingy Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
Look what I found, history 'repeating' itself:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=uaIDfpakq-Y#t=23s
  harishd Locomotive Fireman

10 years back when passengers had to ride in most of the ageing silver fleet without air conditioning. I remember seeing M1 at Auburn once and all the time at Central Station. Me and my grandad were trying to catch that 4 car Millennium train from Central but we missed it. It's better now that RailCorp is introducing better new air conditioned trains like the OSCARS and Waratahs so we won't have to suffer in heat Very Happy.
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
10 years back when passengers had to ride in most of the ageing silver fleet without air conditioning. I remember seeing M1 at Auburn once and all the time at Central Station. Me and my grandad were trying to catch that 4 car Millennium train from Central but we missed it. It's better now that RailCorp is introducing better new air conditioned trains like the OSCARS and Waratahs so we won't have to suffer in heat Very Happy.
"harishd"


Remember the Tulloch trailers?
They weren't even 'silver'.
 I had them a few times, ten years ago too. (Has it been so long?
) They were SO HOT.
  harishd Locomotive Fireman

Yeah I remember riding on them a few times before the Millenniums completely wiped them out of service. They had a wheel with a lock on the side seat back window of the carriage that I played with as like using the hands for a steering wheel. I actually didn't realise they were gone until end of 2003 and they used to have in Petersham stabling sides next to Petersham station but unfortunately they are gone from there. The rest I think are in Pambula NSW.
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
Yeah I remember riding on them a few times before the Millenniums completely wiped them out of service. They had a wheel with a lock on the side seat back window of the carriage that I played with as like using the hands for a steering wheel. I actually didn't realise they were gone until end of 2003 and they used to have in Petersham stabling sides next to Petersham station but unfortunately they are gone from there. The rest I think are in Pambula NSW.
"harishd"


I don't miss them one bit.

Also, we should paint our trains red again, just for fun. 
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
in Petersham stabling sides next to Petersham station
"harishd"


Not a stabling siding, the cars there are there for crew training.

Also, we should paint our trains red again, just for fun. 
"Watson374"
 

Ooh, may as well have steam hauled services in revenue service again, THAT would be fun. If it's just red paint you want, leave the train unattended for thirty seconds and the vandals will surely oblige. 
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
Also, we should paint our trains red again, just for fun. 
"Watson374"
 

Ooh, may as well have steam hauled services in revenue service again, THAT would be fun. If it's just red paint you want, leave the train unattended for thirty seconds and the vandals will surely oblige. 
"Raichase"


But then there's a chance of the wrong colour, and the paint being in the wrong areas. Like, seats. And yes, steam hauled trips would be fun. I think there was a time in London when they had Steam on the Met every few years; however, PPP put an end to that and so it hasn't been seen since the turn of the millennium or so.

The main problem with red is that it goes poorly with yellowisation. Admittedly, the newer stocks like this threads namesake, the Waratah, look good in yellow. But in terms of external aesthetics, I still like the Tangara.
  Black1050 Chief Train Controller

Location: Out of the Metrop
I'd like the trains to be black, so that when a train pulls into a platform with large graffiti murals down the side mid run, the station staff can come out with black paint and a roller to paint over it in black right away so that the graffiti scum don't get to enjoy seeing the tagged trains.  I think it'd be quite demoralising for them to put all that time effort and money into tagging the train and to have it all covered up on in less than half an hour...
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
I'd like the trains to be black, so that when a train pulls into a platform with large graffiti murals down the side mid run, the station staff can come out with black paint and a roller to paint over it in black right away so that the graffiti scum don't get to enjoy seeing the tagged trains. I think it'd be quite demoralising for them to put all that time effort and money into tagging the train and to have it all covered up on in less than half an hour...
"Black1050"


That would be hilarious. Black paint dries fastest or something. 
  Empdizz Junior Train Controller

Location: Somewhere on Sector 3
I think it'd be quite demoralising for them to put all that time effort and money into tagging the train and to have it all covered up on in less than half an hour...
"Black1050"


I am sure they have plenty of time with no jobs and all.
Just by looking at most tagging, I'd say there was no effort either.
Also, I seriously doubt that they pay for the paint... In fact, chances are the government is paying them.

Thread is very off-topic.
  railsymphony Train Controller

Location: Over the rainbow
Just had word from bm3801 about a Waratah heading south through Morrisset, perhaps A10? Might see if I can get some photos through Gosford.
  harishd Locomotive Fireman

That would be good. I was nearly waiting for 2 months for A10 to arrive wondering where it was. Last Friday when I was at Central a Downer EDI Rail guy who was in the back of A3 said that they are still doing some testing with A10 in Cardiff and not sure when it'll be transferred to Auburn but he said soon.

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