Building an IDR Railway Castings VQDW - Problem

 
  defman70 Train Controller

Hey All,

Has anyone ever had the..err... fortune of building one of these kits?
I have just got to drilling holes for the bogies. One was fine.. but right where they have the indentation for the second bogie, they have the lead weight running right down the middle of the centre sill. There is no way I can drill with a fine drill into what I presume is lead weight.
Moving a little to the middle or to the end is no help either as there is still weight to be found.

Any suggestions help appreciated.

Mark

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  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
Lead is soft and can be drilled just be careful doing it. Take your time and don't drill fast as it will only melt the lead.  A pin vice is the go here. You should then be able to either put in a self tapping screw or a machine bolt if you tap the hole a bit. I have successfully done this years back on models.

When you have finished though thoroughly wash your hands to remove any lead residue, that may be on your hands especially before eating. 
  defman70 Train Controller

Thanks for the reply David, however, the more I drill the more I think it isn't lead. I can't make much of an indentation in it at all.. it skids off the surface and out to the side. I have a pin vice and that doesn't seem to help at all.


  Geekboy Train Controller

Location: Banned
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  ARKits Train Controller

Location: Warwick, Qld
It's a steel weight (on mine anyway). Not much you can do about it as the drill will want to wander off centre into the softer resin. Maybe contact the manufacturer?
"Geekboy"


If you contact IDR I am sure that he will have an answer. The only other way you can tackles this is in a drill press. Just keep touching the drill to the casting until you get the metal centered and then drill through. You may have to tap the hole because I do not believe that self tappers will tackle the metal weight.

Regards

Al 
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
To start a drill centred and where you want it to go centre punch exactly where it has to be be in the metal and use that to stop the drill from wandering. If the weight is in the resin hand drill through the resin and then use a nail or something and carefully centre punch the hole that way. The bit should then find the indent and start drilling in the right spot.
  4464 Chief Commissioner

Location: Gone, like a fart in a fan factory!
Quick but effective fix, 
Cut a short bit of styrene tube which is the inside diameter of the bogie hole, and glue it on top of the mounting hole. Use a small screw and washer to stop it from popping off the bottom! If you need to,bore the bogie hole out, which will allow you to have a thicker tube with more integrity.

I have one (of 4) VQDW with the same problem, I will be fixing it this way when the time comes!  





  defman70 Train Controller

Quick but effective fix, 
Cut a short bit of styrene tube which is the inside diameter of the bogie hole, and glue it on top of the mounting hole. Use a small screw and washer to stop it from popping off the bottom! If you need to,bore the bogie hole out, which will allow you to have a thicker tube with more integrity.

I have one (of 4) VQDW with the same problem, I will be fixing it this way when the time comes!  




"4464"


But this would lift the height between the bogies and the body and make it look a little unrealistic/odd wouldn't it? It would also therefore affect the coupler height as well? I assume you have done this to both bogies?

Mark
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
Quick but effective fix, 
Cut a short bit of styrene tube which is the inside diameter of the bogie hole, and glue it on top of the mounting hole. Use a small screw and washer to stop it from popping off the bottom! If you need to,bore the bogie hole out, which will allow you to have a thicker tube with more integrity.

I have one (of 4) VQDW with the same problem, I will be fixing it this way when the time comes!  




"4464"


But this would lift the height between the bogies and the body and make it look a little unrealistic/odd wouldn't it? It would also therefore affect the coupler height as well? I assume you have done this to both bogies?

Mark
"defman70"


No the tube fits inside the hole of the bogie, you may need to enlarge the hole in the bogie slightly though. The piece that is stuck on to the existing bolster then sits inside the hole of the bogie and the screw tightens into this. The original bogie bolster still supports the car on top of the bogie, so if you do it right you should not alter the ride or coupler height of the car.

This is the way some manufacturers set up their bogies, Athearn do it this way. 

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