If they are finally going ahead with this then whats the point of the Enfield expansion?
If they ant to add more tracks with that fine but they are doing an intermodal terminal also
Does Sydney really need two more Intermodal facilities ?
Why exactly is the freight task going to double by 2020.
Is the countries population going to double by then or will the existing population
simply start buying twice as much stuff.
Most of the freight task doubling will be mineral exports which will increase
but thats already carried by rail.
Why exactly is the freight task going to double by 2020.
Is the countries population going to double by then or will the existing population
simply start buying twice as much stuff.
Most of the freight task doubling will be mineral exports which will increase
but thats already carried by rail.
Where exactly is this new terminal going to be? As far as I can tell Moorebank is on the opposite side of the Georges River from the Main South and the SSFL. Are they really going to install another expensive bridge over the river just for a railway yard? Arent there any other places that would not need such expensive infrastructure?
Where exactly is this new terminal going to be? As far as I can tell Moorebank is on the opposite side of the Georges River from the Main South and the SSFL. Are they really going to install another expensive bridge over the river just for a railway yard? Arent there any other places that would not need such expensive infrastructure?
Where exactly is this new terminal going to be? As far as I can tell Moorebank is on the opposite side of the Georges River from the Main South and the SSFL. Are they really going to install another expensive bridge over the river just for a railway yard? Arent there any other places that would not need such expensive infrastructure?
The Moorebank site is long in the North South direction and short in the East West direction.
Just as the Bow Bowing Creek was deviated near Macquarie Fields to eliminate two separate bridges, the same creek could be deviated around the Morebank site, eliminating the two aforesaid bridges.
You then choose which is cheaper, the creek deviation or the bridge(s).
There are not a lot of alternative sites to Morebank that are
* large
* long and capable of handling 1800m trains.
* levelish
* reasonably away from houses
* near a freight only line such as SSFL
* reasonbly close to Botany and Enfield
* already in government ownership
* bridge(s) across creeks are the least of our worries. See flyovers at Glenfield.
Looks like the site incorporates the School Of Military Engineering, Golf Course & a heap of older Military Areas. None of these areas were used as bomb practice ranges to my knowledge although I have a few fond memories of the area.
Regards,
Pradnapper.
Impressive and massive facililty, bet its opened by official car and not official train though.
Curious they did not connect it with the east hills line, the tracks literatly touch it, or make a complete loop out of the facililty same reason. Or did they literatly not want anything to do with any back ways/short cuts since they have the SSFL now ?
Grade of the junction looks interesting
The PDF is a bit clearer but not so much, can't tell which roads or not have been claimed for the project, was looking for Greenhills avenue and there abouts in the blurry maps.
Impressive and massive facililty, bet its opened by official car and not official train though.
Curious they did not connect it with the east hills line, the tracks literatly touch it, or make a complete loop out of the facililty same reason. Or did they literatly not want anything to do with any back ways/short cuts since they have the SSFL now ?
Grade of the junction looks interesting
The PDF is a bit clearer but not so much, can't tell which roads or not have been claimed for the project, was looking for Greenhills avenue and there abouts in the blurry maps.
East hills line is not a freight line. it is a line for passenger rail.
this site near moorebank is not really near housing. between wattle grove and this facility is already an industrial complex and army facilities.
Also for someone suggesting that the creek could be diverted. How about we try calling that creek by it's proper name which is the Georges River. That whole area is a flood zone so putting a freight terminal in there instead of housing makes sense.
This could assist in freeing up the m5 east from it's nightmares during peak hour.
It will be interesting when they build the Intermodal Terminal as Cambridge Rd Causeway floods during heavy rain and the M5 will be the only entrance/exit to the site. I hope they put in a good traffic management plan in the EIS but knowing this Federal Labor Government, they will stuff it up.
What has planning work for the M5 got to do with Federal Labor?
Where exactly is this new terminal going to be? As far as I can tell Moorebank is on the opposite side of the Georges River from the Main South and the SSFL. Are they really going to install another expensive bridge over the river just for a railway yard? Arent there any other places that would not need such expensive infrastructure?
The Moorebank site is long in the North South direction and short in the East West direction.
Just as the Bow Bowing Creek was deviated near Macquarie Fields to eliminate two separate bridges, the same creek could be deviated around the Morebank site, eliminating the two aforesaid bridges.
You then choose which is cheaper, the creek deviation or the bridge(s).
There are not a lot of alternative sites to Morebank that are
* large
* long and capable of handling 1800m trains.
* levelish
* reasonably away from houses
* near a freight only line such as SSFL
* reasonbly close to Botany and Enfield
* already in government ownership
* bridge(s) across creeks are the least of our worries. See flyovers at Glenfield.
It will be interesting when they build the Intermodal Terminal as Cambridge Rd Causeway floods during heavy rain and the M5 will be the only entrance/exit to the site. I hope they put in a good traffic management plan in the EIS but knowing this Federal Labor Government, they will stuff it up.
What has planning work for the M5 got to do with Federal Labor?
The diagrams show::
* triangular connection to SSFL probably of 200m radius
* the triangle appears to be partly over the river
* 2 or 3 long (1800m ? ) sidings
* 6 or 7 short (750m ? ) sidings
* the artist impression is unclear, but these sidings seems to be deadends.
* this means that an 1500m/1800m Melbourne-Brisbane train pausing at Moorebank would have to be pulled in or pulled out in a Top & Tailed fashion
Since the SSFL is segregated and presumably reliable, the need to divert freighters via the East Hills line would be small.
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