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      Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

    Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
    Datasheet for CFCLA's CM class, complete with drawing of the loco, is online at http://www.cfcla.com.au/datasheet/CM_Datasheet.pdf

    Basic details are: 10 Class members (numbers CM3301 to CM3310). Single Cab, Co-Co bogies with a dead weight of 133.8 t. 18 Cylinder Cummins QSK78 engine producing 3,500 hp for a continuous tractive effort of 363 kN at 18km/h.
    Posted: 30 Nov 2012 02:23

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      alcoworldseries Deputy Commissioner

    Location: Auburn
    133.8 tonne dead weight, be interesting to see intended use, they are going to be very route limited, add another 10 tonne for fuel to make live weight plus more for other consumables.
    Posted: 30 Nov 2012 02:46
      M636C Minister for Railways

    These are the same as the standard gauge CBH class locomotives 118 to 122.

    They are 134 t fully loaded with an axle load of just less than 22 tons.

    I think the CM class will be the same and the interpretation of the data sheet is incorrect.

    M636C
    Posted: 30 Nov 2012 22:23
      Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

    Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
    The CFCLA website http://www.cfcla.com.au/locomotives-mainline2000.htm which leads to the datasheet lists the dead weight info. Comparing the info in the datasheet (eg axle load) and known CBH info I'd be inclined to agree to dead weight noted is really the fully fueled weight.
    Posted: 01 Dec 2012 11:16
      jt393 Assistant Commissioner

    Location: los jinetes enmascarados' clubhouse
    I'm interested to see the front of the new CM's, Is there any photos of them looking from the front yet?

    CRL did it on their website with the planned 1150's side & front photos, so why not the CM's?
    Posted: 20 Dec 2012 14:37

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      bevans Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Any idea if there locomotives have been committed for hire to an operator?

    Regards
    Brian
    Posted: 20 Dec 2012 14:40
      BDA Chief Commissioner

    Location: Sydney
    They may mean dead hauling mass , BTW do D87BTRs use plain suspension bearings ?
    Posted: 20 Dec 2012 15:34
      VRfan Moderator

    Location: In front of my computer :-p
    I'm interested to see the front of the new CM's, Is there any photos of them looking from the front yet?
    "jt393"


    Surely it would be the same as a CBH...
    Posted: 20 Dec 2012 16:21
      jt393 Assistant Commissioner

    Location: los jinetes enmascarados' clubhouse
    I'm interested to see the front of the new CM's, Is there any photos of them looking from the front yet?
    "jt393"


    Surely it would be the same as a CBH...
    "VRfan"


    I know but I'm just interested in seeing on how the CFCLA livery would look from the front.
    Posted: 20 Dec 2012 16:48
      M636C Minister for Railways

    They may mean dead hauling mass , BTW do D87BTRs use plain suspension bearings ?
    "BDA"


    The "R" in BTR stands for roller suspension bearings.

    M636C
    Posted: 20 Dec 2012 19:05
      Zodiac Junior Train Controller

    Location: The Never Never
    Oh Joy Oh Joy Oh Joy ! Another NR class clone.......
    All these blunt end buggies are getting mighty boring.....

    The Zodiac
    What was that noise just now.......
    Posted: 20 Dec 2012 19:12
      GT46C-ACe Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Sydney, NSW
    I seem to remember there being locomotives of the same layout as the NR in operation somewhere else on the globe before the NR came out so hows about instead of being a typical foamer and whinging about everything new being an NR clone maybe just quit whinging or go out and buy yourself an old loco to run around so you can satisfy your foamer needs? (Not aimed directly at the above post but everyone else who's whinged for the same reason)

    It's interesting to see these leasing mobs buying all sorts of different power, I'd have thought it'd make more sense to standardise.
    Posted: 20 Dec 2012 19:28
      P2017 Chief Commissioner

    Location: Geraldton
    If they are like the CBH's Locomotives they wont look anything like an NR!! 
    Posted: 20 Dec 2012 20:13
      Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

    Location: Terminating at Ringwood
    The "NR" shape is just a standard modern locomotive design. Compare with 1950s bulldog/cab unit design: B, S, GM, 42, CL (CLF/CLP); or Alco variants like 930, 43, 44 class. Or, 1960s hood unit design: T, X/XR, 47. Or, 1980s box cab design: BL, G, 81, N, GML.
    Posted: 21 Dec 2012 21:50
      JNSymes Junior Train Controller

    The "NR" shape is just a standard modern locomotive design. Compare with 1950s bulldog/cab unit design: B, S, GM, 42, CL (CLF/CLP); or Alco variants like 930, 43, 44 class. Or, 1960s hood unit design: T, X/XR, 47. Or, 1980s box cab design: BL, G, 81, N, GML.
    "Heihachi_73"


    Bingo

    I wonder if gunzels in the 1950's/60's were saying "not another bulldog clone........."  8)
    Posted: 21 Dec 2012 23:32
      DBclass Chief Commissioner

    Location: Western Australia
    The "NR" shape is just a standard modern locomotive design. Compare with 1950s bulldog/cab unit design: B, S, GM, 42, CL (CLF/CLP); or Alco variants like 930, 43, 44 class. Or, 1960s hood unit design: T, X/XR, 47. Or, 1980s box cab design: BL, G, 81, N, GML.
    "Heihachi_73"


    Bingo

    I wonder if gunzels in the 1950's/60's were saying "not another bulldog clone........." 8)
    "JNSymes"


    What do they think in the US ?

    Not much has happened in the last, aww i dunno, 30 years? They all have the shape of a Dash 9, as far as i can tell anyway.
    Posted: 22 Dec 2012 00:49
      dw54 Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Devonport, Tas

    The CFCLA website http://www.cfcla.com.au/locomotives-mainline2000.htm which leads to the datasheet lists the dead weight info. Comparing the info in the datasheet (eg axle load) and known CBH info I'd be inclined to agree to dead weight noted is really the fully fueled weight.
    "Poath Junction"


    And compared to the other classes' data sheets, which explicitly show the fuel included in the "dead" weight, I think this is a reasonable assumption.

    DW in Don, Tas.

    Posted: 04 Feb 2013 22:23
      Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

    Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
    6 more loco's have just been added to the original order of 10, Wabtec press release at http://www.wabtec.com/upload/pressrelease/06.05.13%20-%20CFCLA%20Locomotives.pdf
    Posted: 06 Jun 2013 03:48
      nscaler69 Deputy Commissioner

    Location: There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots.
    Found this on the Flickr's 'The CFCLA Pool': http://www.flickr.com/photos/15264656@N02/8677247191/in/pool-cfcla
    Posted: 19 Jun 2013 20:58
      jmt Deputy Commissioner

    A number of Shrink-wrapped export locos have been recently sighted by a local at the Nampa yard, where traffic collected from Boise by the Watco owned Boise Valley Railroad is interchanged with the UP

    CFCLA 3301 reported to be at Galveston
    Posted: 20 Jun 2013 10:55
      Factory_Fill Deputy Commissioner

    Location: Melbourne VIC
    This just appeared in my Flickr feed:

    Kudos to Matt for the photo. Noted in the description due into NSW late July (23rd or so)

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/15264656@N02/9219200737/
    Posted: 06 Jul 2013 17:25
      jt393 Assistant Commissioner

    Location: los jinetes enmascarados' clubhouse
    This just appeared in my Flickr feed:

    Kudos to Matt for the photo. Noted in the description due into NSW late July (23rd or so)

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/15264656@N02/9219200737/
    Factory_Fill
    It's a beauty:D
    Posted: 06 Jul 2013 17:39
      Zodiac Junior Train Controller

    Location: The Never Never
    That's not the prettiest loco I've ever seen but this seems to be that latest trend, make em as ugly as you can.
    Posted: 06 Jul 2013 19:26
      Raichase Captain Rant!

    Location: Sydney, NSW
    I recall seeing this pic in an e-mail sent to me a few months ago - at the time, it really shocked me, but I've really warmed to it. Looks a lot better than the 1100 type design!
    Posted: 06 Jul 2013 20:38
      VRfan Moderator

    Location: In front of my computer :-p
    I think the CFCLA livery suits them and while not the best looking locos ever they aren't hideous either. It will be interest to see where they end up being used in Australia.
    Posted: 09 Jul 2013 13:54

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