You gain skills that make the training easier, but PN bulk don't recognise safeworking that others have taught.
It's a lot of money to throw towards something that might not land you a job. Personal experience would say don't bother.
If a candidate has done a full NSW safeworking course with certificates to prove it, PN will lose a lot of potential candidates if they fail to consider a candidate's prior training relevant to the industry and the job the candidates are going for.
then the whole idea of nationally-recognised training modules for the rail industry is a complete farce.
Craig.
I don't understand why PN will not recognise training provider by another entity, when core stuff like safeworking, etc. is now a nationally-recognised competency via the Cert-III and Cert-IV RTO assessing process. For PN to decline to acknowledge/RPL certified training where candidates provide certificates proving they have competency in the relevent TLI's is pretty stupid. For anything that is specific to what the company does, that's understandable, such as company-specific policies/procedures, site inductions, etc.
If a candidate has done a full NSW safeworking course with certificates to prove it, PN will lose a lot of potential candidates if they fail to consider a candidate's prior training relevant to the industry and the job the candidates are going for.
A lot more people are now going to be fronting up to apply for jobs with Cert-IV certificates esp with the rail safety legislation in most states now requiring train crews to hold a nationally-recognised certification as part of the company's own operator accreditation, and if a company declines to recognise those, then the whole idea of nationally-recognised training modules for the rail industry is a complete farce.
Craig.
If you do some research on this forum, you'll find opinion is divided on the benefit of private training. I believe that I wouldn't have the job that I have, without the "off the job" training. Employers may not recognize the quals that you earned but they may recognize the commitment that you made.Agree. As with most RTO's they don't have a loco sitting out back for u to complete say TLIB3021A "Conduct train roll by inspection" so the "commitment" is the value u get for your money by doing the "off the job training"....it's quite an expensive commitment though!
Agree. As with most RTO's they don't have a loco sitting out back for u to complete say TLIB3021A "Conduct train roll by inspection" so the "commitment" is the value u get for your money by doing the "off the job training"....it's quite an expensive commitment though!And companies like Aurizon, which pretend to be willing to upskill everyone to having a nationally-recognised cert-IV as per the new rail safety legislation, keep stalling on fulfilling that obligation because of 'other priorities'.
Debatable as most of the advice I've received on this forum (from drivers and recruiting consultants) is that most operators will put you through the off the job training again.
An external training package is definitely a good starting point for someone new to the industry as it presents a valid case for employment showing some initial dedication, and it reduces the training burden on a potential employer too.
So the course you have done might be a waste of time for PN, but it may be useful for other operators. Have you considered doing volunteer work for a tourist/heritage railway who might have trainers and whatnot who can sign you off for rollby inspections, shunting and all that? Of course, instead of paying money for the training, you might have to do some restoration work and things like that...Have made approaches to a heritage railway nearby where I live and would love to get my hands dirty in restoration work, I have made some contacts through their operations manager and they have promised me that I will be invited to future working bees, so I'm hopeful that I will be able to, as you say get some of those competencies "singed off". Plus I think it would be a rewarding hobby to see some old diesel or steamer get back to work!
You might discover a good hobby!
M
DO NOT mention you like trains.
You can probably mention it in a face to face interview as a passing comment (they want to see that you have at least some interest in the job!) but don't come off as a foaming gunzel. Probably wouldnt have it on a CV.Agree, a passing comment if it comes up in the preamble of an interview or if asked directly and personally IMO it does not belong in a CV. There are better skills and experiences that you can highlight, my top 6 are:
Agree, a passing comment if it comes up in the preamble of an interview or if asked directly and personally IMO it does not belong in a CV. There are better skills and experiences that you can highlight, my top 6 are:
1. Mechanical aptitude-either in your line of work or some hobby.
2. Good communication skills
3. Team player
4. Demonstrated adherence to safe working practice
5. Demonstrated experience to follow rules and procedures
6. A willingness to work shift-work
Have I missed anything?
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