ADL railcars, roof detail?

 
  benscaro Chief Commissioner


i am wondering if anyone has any shots showing the roof detail, either in perth or before the upgrades to the cars in auckland.

regards

ben

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  DFB7307 Locomotive Driver

Location: Too far away from the railway line!
Hi,

I may have, but will be black and white. Will check and get back to you later today,

Cheers,

Anthony.
  DFB7307 Locomotive Driver

Location: Too far away from the railway line!
I know i have pics somewhere, will keep looking and keep you posted,
anthony.
  Wool Stores Locomotive Fireman

Location: Perth
I recently found this rather poor quality but interesting image of Claisebrook during electrification in the early 90s...


Weston Langford's site also has some relatively useable images from New Zealand...



And finally this one from the Rail Heritage WA online archive...


  benscaro Chief Commissioner

thanks guys. 

it's interesting as the ADL is the power car, and the ADC the trailer ... yet from the visble roof details you'd be hard pressed to see any difference between them. 

that seems a bit odd to me.
  1213Driver Chief Commissioner

Location: Perth Western Australia
Any pics looking into those ADK raised radiator/fan housings would be interesting too!
  benscaro Chief Commissioner

when the ADK went to NZ it looks as though they reduced the height of that roof housing. a search on the weston langford site again shows the difference:

perth


http://westonlangford.com/images/photo/115102/


auckland

http://westonlangford.com/images/photo/125312/
  Bahnfrend Station Master

Location: Perth, WA
thanks guys.

it's interesting as the ADL is the power car, and the ADC the trailer ... yet from the visble roof details you'd be hard pressed to see any difference between them.

that seems a bit odd to me.
"benscaro"


Unlike previous narrow gauge railcar sets, the ADLs/ADCs were/are airconditioned, and that probably explains why their roof details look similar.
  thewaratahtrain Chief Train Controller

wow there's a quick history lesson these trains were way before my time, it's amazing just to look at especially the one photo at claisebrook with the a series in the background should have kept them and converting them to electric propulsion (if possible).  
  Australind Minister for Railways

Location: Perth, Western Australia
ahhhh those photos brought back some nice memories
  thewaratahtrain Chief Train Controller

Should bring them back and put them into preservation
  witzendoz Junior Train Controller

Location: Fremantle
wow there's a quick history lesson these trains were way before my time, it's amazing just to look at especially the one photo at claisebrook with the a series in the background should have kept them and converting them to electric propulsion (if possible).
"thewaratahtrain"


Funny, when the new silver steel trains as we knew then came along we are amazed, air conditioning, doors that closed when you left the station, and doors that opened at the push of a button. We had only had the ADG ADA style railcars and loco drawn carriages up to that point.  However as kids we were disappointed that we could no longer stand in the doorway with the doors open, imagine that happening nowadays!

The future had arrived.
  thewaratahtrain Chief Train Controller

I can imagine, how modern you thought they were, which to this day they are still very modern, the a series are very good trains.
  Bahnfrend Station Master

Location: Perth, WA
wow there's a quick history lesson these trains were way before my time, it's amazing just to look at especially the one photo at claisebrook with the a series in the background should have kept them and converting them to electric propulsion (if possible).
"thewaratahtrain"


No, I don't think so.  I doubt they could have been converted very easily or cheaply, and even if they could, they were a lot less advanced and therefore less desirable to ride in than the A series electrics.  Also, Westrail probably got pretty good money selling them to the Kiwis.

Should bring them back and put them into preservation
"thewaratahtrain"


They've been heavily modified since they went to NZ, and chances are that at least one of them will be preserved over there.  The same is true of the ADKs/ADBs.
  thewaratahtrain Chief Train Controller

wow there's a quick history lesson these trains were way before my time, it's amazing just to look at especially the one photo at claisebrook with the a series in the background should have kept them and converting them to electric propulsion (if possible).
"thewaratahtrain"


No, I don't think so. I doubt they could have been converted very easily or cheaply, and even if they could, they were a lot less advanced and therefore less desirable to ride in than the A series electrics. Also, Westrail probably got pretty good money selling them to the Kiwis.

Should bring them back and put them into preservation
"thewaratahtrain"


They've been heavily modified since they went to NZ, and chances are that at least one of them will be preserved over there. The same is true of the ADKs/ADBs.
"Bahnfrend"


that's true they look really nice now, it would be nice for a couple to come back to Perth for Preservation. 
  benscaro Chief Commissioner

i'd wonder at the interest in preserving one. 

like a lot of WAGR stock, they seem to have lived their lives relatively unnoticed while plying their trade ... no small feat in a city of over a million. 

(i wonder if it used to be illegal to take shots of trains at suburban stations?)

auckland residents seem down on them because 1. they're australian 2. the re-fit was apparently mostly cosmetic and performance wasn't much improved.   

they do however take a lot of videos of them ... maybe they have attracted a few fans.
  thewaratahtrain Chief Train Controller

Most of them now are running as loco hauled carriages they've reached the end of their long lives, Auckland is now electricifying and the manager from Veolia Transdev Wangara is over seeing the project they are getting electric trains manufactured by C.A.F top speed 110kp/h, which are based on the downer EDI & Bombarbier b series railcar, similar interior layout & design.
  Bulbous Assistant Commissioner

Most of them now are running as loco hauled carriages they've reached the end of their long lives, Auckland is now electricifying and the manager from Veolia Transdev Wangara is over seeing the project they are getting electric trains manufactured by C.A.F top speed 110kp/h, which are based on the downer EDI & Bombarbier b series railcar, similar interior layout & design.
"thewaratahtrain"


Huh? The loco hauled carriages are not the old Perth railcars, and the CAF trains are not based on the B series railcar.
  thewaratahtrain Chief Train Controller

My mistake but they do look similar to the Bs. That's good to see the old Perth fleet still running.
  benscaro Chief Commissioner

back on topic (rare for me i know) ... but still keen to see any close up roof shots of ADL/ADC.
  Australind Minister for Railways

Location: Perth, Western Australia
(off topic again) Does anyone got any photos of the cab layouts of the ADL's?
  benscaro Chief Commissioner

...and on again.

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question has to be ... did the roofs look this way before  auckland ?
  murray.lee Beginner

I am writing a pictorial history on the ADK and ADL's. Contrary to common belief they are great machines (I have to say that as I drive them for Veolia-Transdev here in Auckland). I am after pictures of these wonderful ladies and I have been reading through the old forums and found a link to some pics taken of the units being loaded on a ship. Unfortunately the links don't work, The forum dates back to 2005. The person with the photos was PM1225, but he hasn't been on the forum for the last couple of years.
Can any one help me please.
Thanks
Murray

PS I have lots of photos of what they are like now. If anyone wants anything in particular let me know
  perthadk Station Master

I am writing a pictorial history on the ADK and ADL's. Contrary to common belief they are great machines (I have to say that as I drive them for Veolia-Transdev here in Auckland). I am after pictures of these wonderful ladies and I have been reading through the old forums and found a link to some pics taken of the units being loaded on a ship. Unfortunately the links don't work, The forum dates back to 2005. The person with the photos was PM1225, but he hasn't been on the forum for the last couple of years.
Can any one help me please.
Thanks
Murray

PS I have lots of photos of what they are like now. If anyone wants anything in particular let me know
murray.lee

Hi Murray,

I have a few of them that I have downloaded and that have been sent to me... I am hesitant on posting them up as I didn't take the pics... if u have any of the inside of the drivers cab that would be cool !
  fastrak44 Junior Train Controller

Location: 100 metres from what will be electrified railway in the next 5 years.
I am writing a pictorial history on the ADK and ADL's. Contrary to common belief they are great machines (I have to say that as I drive them for Veolia-Transdev here in Auckland). I am after pictures of these wonderful ladies and I have been reading through the old forums and found a link to some pics taken of the units being loaded on a ship. Unfortunately the links don't work, The forum dates back to 2005. The person with the photos was PM1225, but he hasn't been on the forum for the last couple of years.
Can any one help me please.
Thanks
Murray

PS I have lots of photos of what they are like now. If anyone wants anything in particular let me know
murray.lee
I'll be happy to purchase a copy when you publish it Smile

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