John Holland gets NSW CRN Contract

 
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
"A new Master Train Plan, which will commence on the 15th of January 2012, has been posted on the ARTC website. It can be found at:

http://www.artc.com.au/Content.aspx?p=161

ARTC will cease management of the New South Wales Country Regional Network (CRN) from midnight 14 January 2012. For information regarding the Country Regional Network direct any enquiries to Country Rail Infrastructure Authority at http://countryrail.nsw.gov.au/"


http://extranet.artc.com.au/docman/DocManFiles/DocTypes/TAA/Files/0016-2012.PDF?1700996018

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  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
"Termination of the ARTC Control of the Country Regional Network

Introduction

From 0001 hours on Sunday 15th January 2012 the operational control and management of the Country Regional Network (as defined below) will be relinquished by the Australian Rail Track Corporation (ARTC) and taken up by John Holland Rail (JHR).

Preliminary alterations to Phoenix RVD and TMACS Train Order systems which are necessary to enable the switchover of control from ARTC to JHR will commence from 2300 hours on Saturday 14th January 2012. During this time trains which are within the network which is to be relinquished by ARTC will be managed. Late running trains may incur delays.

Boundaries of the CRN

The Country Regional Network currently managed by ARTC which will be relinquished and taken up by John Holland Rail is defined below;..."

http://extranet.artc.com.au/docman/DocManFiles/DocTypes/SAFE/Files/2-1612.PDF?2029832475
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
"Termination of the ARTC Control of the Country Regional Network Introduction From 0001 hours on Sunday 15th January 2012 the operational control and management of the Country Regional Network (as defined below) will be relinquished by the Australian Rail Track Corporation (ARTC) and taken up by John Holland Rail (JHR). Preliminary alterations to Phoenix RVD and TMACS Train Order systems which are necessary to enable the switchover of control from ARTC to JHR will commence from 2300 hours on Saturday 14th January 2012. During this time trains which are within the network which is to be relinquished by ARTC will be managed. Late running trains may incur delays. Boundaries of the CRN The Country Regional Network currently managed by ARTC which will be relinquished and taken up by John Holland Rail is defined below;..." http://extranet.artc.com.au/docman/DocManFiles/DocTypes/SAFE/Files/2-1612.PDF?2029832475
"cootanee"




Anyone notice?


Maybe someone forgot at CRIA as they haven't amended its home page  Idea
http://countryrail.nsw.gov.au/
  MD Chief Commissioner

Location: Canbera
Does CRIA need to know.
What actually do they do , apart from let contracts to other organizations to manage what they themselves are supposed to manage.
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
Does CRIA need to know.
What actually do they do , apart from let contracts to other organizations to manage what they themselves are supposed to manage.
"MD"


Well since they DO administer the CRN contract you would think they had plenty of time to update their own home page.  ARTC have had a notice on its home page for a month.

But then who gives a rats about the CRN anyway.     Wink
  MD Chief Commissioner

Location: Canbera
But thats my point.
The contract with JH is now let, and I beleive it goes for 5 years +, might be 10.
So what does CRIA now do until there is a need to let another one.
You have to wonder why Railcorp doesnt manage the CRN, or conversly why Railcorp dont contract JH
to manage the Cityrail network.
5 organizations new doing what 1 used too with less trains in total running, and more closed lines than previously.




  Piston Train Controller

But thats my point.
The contract with JH is now let, and I beleive it goes for 5 years +, might be 10.
So what does CRIA now do until there is a need to let another one.
You have to wonder why Railcorp doesnt manage the CRN, or conversly why Railcorp dont contract JH
to manage the Cityrail network.
5 organizations new doing what 1 used too with less trains in total running, and more closed lines than previously.



"MD"


You have to feel sorry for the operators, they now have to deal with three access providors in NSW now. Prior to 2004 there was only RIC looking after the lot.
And they call this progress?
  jdennis Junior Train Controller

But thats my point.
The contract with JH is now let, and I beleive it goes for 5 years +, might be 10.
So what does CRIA now do until there is a need to let another one.
You have to wonder why Railcorp doesnt manage the CRN, or conversly why Railcorp dont contract JH
to manage the Cityrail network.
5 organizations new doing what 1 used too with less trains in total running, and more closed lines than previously.



"MD"


You have to feel sorry for the operators, they now have to deal with three access providors in NSW now. Prior to 2004 there was only RIC looking after the lot.
And they call this progress?
"Piston"


A lot of pointless busy work and time wasting going on if you ask me. 
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
But thats my point.
The contract with JH is now let, and I beleive it goes for 5 years +, might be 10.
So what does CRIA now do until there is a need to let another one.
You have to wonder why Railcorp doesnt manage the CRN, or conversly why Railcorp dont contract JH
to manage the Cityrail network.
5 organizations new doing what 1 used too with less trains in total running, and more closed lines than previously.



"MD"


You have to feel sorry for the operators, they now have to deal with three access providors in NSW now. Prior to 2004 there was only RIC looking after the lot.
And they call this progress?
"Piston"


A lot of pointless busy work and time wasting going on if you ask me. 
"jdennis"



RAC (RIC) - well I guess someone had to be busy overseeing the shutdown of rail lines. Remember how hard it was for NRC to get them to move on infrastructure works even when it put up the cash       Rolling Eyes

ARTC - they have the DIRN  for the next 52 years which is fine. Unfortunately you may still need move freight on cityrail or crn lines.

Mind you in the spirit of a 'national' economy ARTC could be the single agent for all rail access.  
  Piston Train Controller

[Mind you in the spirit of a 'national' economy ARTC could be the single agent for all rail access.  [/quote]

ARTC maybe able to maintain 'below rail' and leave the running of trains and operating instructions to other parties.

ARTC do not appear to be able to maintain their operating instructions, some haven't been updated since 2004.

Maybe the appearance of John Holland to the scene may force them to bring their manuals up to date with 2012



  jedimasterc Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
the info seems to be updated on the cria website
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
[Mind you in the spirit of a 'national' economy ARTC could be the single agent for all rail access.  
"Piston"


...ARTC do not appear to be able to maintain their operating instructions, some haven't been updated since 2004.

Maybe the appearance of John Holland to the scene may force them to bring their manuals up to date with 2012


[/quote]

U reckon Laughing
  Piston Train Controller

[Mind you in the spirit of a 'national' economy ARTC could be the single agent for all rail access.  
"Piston"


...ARTC do not appear to be able to maintain their operating instructions, some haven't been updated since 2004.

Maybe the appearance of John Holland to the scene may force them to bring their manuals up to date with 2012


"cootanee"


U reckon Laughing[/quote]
If they could have, they would have, but I don't think they can
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
Will John Holland have its own ?


If so hope they factored that into the bid    Wink
  arctic Deputy Commissioner

Location: Zurich
But thats my point.
The contract with JH is now let, and I beleive it goes for 5 years +, might be 10.
So what does CRIA now do until there is a need to let another one.
You have to wonder why Railcorp doesnt manage the CRN, or conversly why Railcorp dont contract JH
to manage the Cityrail network.
5 organizations new doing what 1 used too with less trains in total running, and more closed lines than previously.



"MD"


You have to feel sorry for the operators, they now have to deal with three access providors in NSW now. Prior to 2004 there was only RIC looking after the lot.
And they call this progress?
"Piston"


A lot of pointless busy work and time wasting going on if you ask me. 
"jdennis"


....and the flip side is interstate operators now deal with one or two access providers....rather than, what was it, up to *five* on one trip.....which was the whole point of the Australian Rail Track Corporation, in the odd belief we are a unified country not seven.......
  cougar2010 Station Staff

Is it safe to say now that the head stone for the Blayney to Demondrille line can now be constructed?








  MD Chief Commissioner

Location: Canbera
Doesnt make any differance who the CRN manager is.
The issue of lines which are now closed being reopened , or lines being closed
still rests with the track owner, not the manager.
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
Who knows...


If John Holland Rail is more efficient and productive and saves the NSW Government a bit they may end up as ARTC's owner  Wink
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: North of the border!
Had a chuckle reading this (Senator Williams from bottom of Page 14 re. a culvert on Yarraman Creek)

http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Senate_Committees?url=rrat_ctte/estimates/add_1213/hansard_infra_regional.pdf


Seems some Railpagers aren't the only ones who don't get how NSW track ownership and management operates.

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