Gawler Electrification Back on Track

 
  Jumbo2001 Junior Train Controller

The 4000s are refurbed 3000s...
Aaron

Ignoring any factitious undertones, 4000's were unofficially listed on stabling diagrams, etc... to differentiate between refurb and non refurb 3000's. All 3000's are now done obviously so no need for differentiation.

4000's are the EMUs and thats that.

Also I love the assumptions made here about how things will work. How does anyone know there wont be a revamped Gawler line timetable to run EMU's from Adelaide to Dry Creek? Rumours have it they will purely because a) they can and b) they have the railcars to do it.

It obviously is so they can get the EMU's to Dry Creek for servicing, but this does not preclude operations on that section in revenue service.

As for 3000/3100 class, there are enough to operate Belair, OH, Grange and Gawler Central.  When all the overheads are completed and Adelaide-Dry Creek is electrified, that will be the end of the Jumbos. All platforms at ARS will be electrified as part of this project. Work will start this year.

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  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
You would think that with this decision the Jumbos would have to go because (as has been stated previously) there will be more than enough 3000's to cover what's left of the diesel network.  I recall the Gawler timetable had a Dry Creek shuttle during the day when I was living in Adelaide some years ago.
  Jumbo2001 Junior Train Controller

You would think that with this decision the Jumbos would have to go because (as has been stated previously) there will be more than enough 3000's to cover what's left of the diesel network.  I recall the Gawler timetable had a Dry Creek shuttle during the day when I was living in Adelaide some years ago.
don_dunstan

You would be right, the Dry Creek shuttles were what the previous Northfield line trains were, and were cut back to Dry Creek upon the closure of that line in 1988 (iirc).

And this announcement implies the Jumbos will be retired as there will be no spark free path for them to run on any lines, they aren't permitted to operate on any line that is electrified, and with the entire Adelaide Station being electrified as part of this, and the trip from ARS to Dry Creek being done, that is it. When completed the Jumbos can't operate anywhere on the network in service. (Ignoring going via ARTC track and Rosewater Loop to Outer Harbor).
  alcoworldseries Deputy Commissioner

Location: Auburn
Now for the reality this is step one of the Gawler extension, a new substation has to be built at Kilburn, the componentry for this has to be built (delivery time about 18 months), estimated delivery time of last (of 22) 4000 sets maybe late 2015, next state budget June 2014, all this budget has done along with last years has put the whole project on a more realistic timeframe, the biggest part of this is the substation that will supply the power to the rest of the electrified network (with built in provisions for redundancies) as it is commissioned, so provided the party of slash, burn and no public transport doesn't do next years budget the project will proceed.
Very hard to swallow the opposition Transport spokesperson who has never had to use public transport and never will, bloody Toff.
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

Now for the reality this is step one of the Gawler extension, a new substation has to be built at Kilburn, the componentry for this has to be built (delivery time about 18 months), estimated delivery time of last (of 22) 4000 sets maybe late 2015, next state budget June 2014, all this budget has done along with last years has put the whole project on a more realistic timeframe, the biggest part of this is the substation that will supply the power to the rest of the electrified network (with built in provisions for redundancies) as it is commissioned, so provided the party of slash, burn and no public transport doesn't do next years budget the project will proceed.
Very hard to swallow the opposition Transport spokesperson who has never had to use public transport and never will, bloody Toff.
alcoworldseries

Setting aside your political assumptions you make a good point.

The system, even as it stands, needs an additional feed as from Kilburn. One plan I saw had a substation in the Mile End area

I also thought it needed the additional storage and holding space provided by Dry Creek. I doubt there is room for 22 sets in both Seaford Meadows and Pt Stanvac yards.

Elsewhere you intimated some problem with Dry Creek. I await the outcome.
I do think the ARS sidings were dismissed with undue haste.

Here's a place to start discussion. When the Overland ceases GSR could move to a new facility at Dry Creek (Why not, just increase the inconvenience and irrelevance?) then the APT site will be available for storage; just needs and access restored and perhaps even the Gaol loop put back.
Lights blue touch paper and retires.
  alcoworldseries Deputy Commissioner

Location: Auburn
Hope you allowed sufficient burn time!!
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
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I do think the ARS sidings were dismissed with undue haste.

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steam4ian

Rann needed them to build a huge monument to himself.

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