S-set Scrapping has begun

 
  mboi84 Junior Train Controller

Location: Sydney
From what I've seen in others photos, the compound appears to be between the workshop area and the work train sidings, so not publicly accessible, or photograph-able without entering the site.
Raichase
Its hard to access. I did see the siding on the last Heritage Express tours which went via the chullora and enfield freight sidings.

There seems to be at least 3 to 6 8 car sets near the scrapping machine. There also appears to be a siding at port enfield where I saw at least 10+ 8 car S sets. Its seems that that siding does have overhead power but all the panto's seemed to be down. I did try to take pictures but was on the wrong side and my photo's weren't coming out (also had issues with my phone's camera at the time).

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  Silver S Set Junior Train Controller

Thanks a lot. I have seen the S Sets in Enfield and by the way, I heard that 28 4 car S sets are going to be overhauled at Broadmeadow.
Once again, thanks.
  wurx Lithgovian Ambassador-at-Large

Location: The mystical lost principality of Daptovia
Thanks a lot. I have seen the S Sets in Enfield and by the way, I heard that 28 4 car S sets are going to be overhauled at Broadmeadow.
Once again, thanks.
Silver S Set
Even as we speak, every week an S-set (whether 4 or 8 car consist I can't remember) is worked empty to Broadmeadow to get o/hauled/refurbed/whatever, and the crew of that empty bring one back (empty again, of course) that has already been done.
  Silver S Set Junior Train Controller

Even as we speak, every week an S-set (whether 4 or 8 car consist I can't remember) is worked empty to Broadmeadow to get o/hauled/refurbed/whatever, and the crew of that empty bring one back (empty again, of course) that has already been done.
wurx
So quickly...
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
The consist run up to Broadmeadow appears to always be eight cars.
  electrax Assistant Commissioner

"Railway Digest", May 2013; p13, has a photo of S46 set at Broadmeadow on 22 March 2013, for refurbishment
  Silver S Set Junior Train Controller

"Railway Digest", May 2013; p13, has a photo of S46 set at Broadmeadow on 22 March 2013, for refurbishment
electrax
Does anyone have a pic of a finished set, its interior and exterior?
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
Does anyone have a pic of a finished set, its interior and exterior?
Silver S Set
It looks exactly the same as the other S Set cars, only without logos or graffiti.
  Silver S Set Junior Train Controller

It looks exactly the same as the other S Set cars, only without logos or graffiti.
Raichase
Oh, I thought the post somewhere above stated that it would have all sorts of new technology, better seats and much more...
I must have been stupid enough to believe that rumour. Embarassed
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
Oh, I thought the post somewhere above stated that it would have all sorts of new technology, better seats and much more...
I must have been stupid enough to believe that rumour. Embarassed
Silver S Set
The rumour going around for ages was that they were going up there for air conditioning to be installed, but that was always categorically false. The only reason they're going there is because Maintrain at Auburn is full of projects, and the S Sets needed to be done at the same time.
  Silver S Set Junior Train Controller

The rumour going around for ages was that they were going up there for air conditioning to be installed, but that was always categorically false. The only reason they're going there is because Maintrain at Auburn is full of projects, and the S Sets needed to be done at the same time.
Raichase
It will be handy if there would be air conditioning installed but I guess it is not worth the money.
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
It will be handy if there would be air conditioning installed but I guess it is not worth the money.
"Silver S Set"
It is not just about the money. It is physically impossible.

Basically, the problem is space in the roof. Because our suburban trains are all double-deck, there is no underfloor room to put the train's magical 'stuff', consisting of the pantograph and other related equipment. This means that the 'stuff' has to go in the roof, and because the upper deck uses most of the roof, the only places in a suburban car where the 'stuff' can go are the two roof compartments atop each end of the car.

With the original design used for the S set cars, the control motor (the 'C' car) carries both the pantograph and the traction 'stuff'. The 'stuff' is at the cab end, and the pantograph is at the other end. This means that both compartments are already used, while the trailer (the 'T' car) doesn't carry anything in the roof. The space doesn't exist.

For the record, from the K set onwards, the pantograph was put on the trailer (either the 'T' car (K/C) or the 'D' car (T/M/H/A)) and the traction 'stuff' on the motor (either the 'C' car (K/C) or the 'N' car (T/M/H/A)), and the two cars each had their own air-conditioning unit, and formed 'married' pairs.

What this all means is that S sets are unique in their equipment configuration, and that configuration makes simple installation of air-conditioning impossible. If it was possible to do so so simply, it would have been done for Olympics. Certainly, one could install it in cabinets or some other unconventional setup, but at this point in their lives, is it really worth it? I think not.
  wurx Lithgovian Ambassador-at-Large

Location: The mystical lost principality of Daptovia
It is not just about the money. It is physically impossible.

Basically, the problem is space in the roof. Because our suburban trains are all double-deck, there is no underfloor room to put the train's magical 'stuff', consisting of the pantograph and other related equipment. This means that the 'stuff' has to go in the roof, and because the upper deck uses most of the roof, the only places in a suburban car where the 'stuff' can go are the two roof compartments atop each end of the car.

With the original design used for the S set cars, the control motor (the 'C' car) carries both the pantograph and the traction 'stuff'. The 'stuff' is at the cab end, and the pantograph is at the other end. This means that both compartments are already used, while the trailer (the 'T' car) doesn't carry anything in the roof. The space doesn't exist.

For the record, from the K set onwards, the pantograph was put on the trailer (either the 'T' car (K/C) or the 'D' car (T/M/H/A)) and the traction 'stuff' on the motor (either the 'C' car (K/C) or the 'N' car (T/M/H/A)), and the two cars each had their own air-conditioning unit, and formed 'married' pairs.

What this all means is that S sets are unique in their equipment configuration, and that configuration makes simple installation of air-conditioning impossible. If it was possible to do so so simply, it would have been done for Olympics. Certainly, one could install it in cabinets or some other unconventional setup, but at this point in their lives, is it really worth it? I think not.
Watson374
Well put Clap If it could have been done, it surely would have, and ages ago.
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
Well put Clap If it could have been done, it surely would have, and ages ago.
"wurx"
Thank you!

PS: There appeared to have been some issues with my formatting, rendering something which was supposed to be smaller, for de-emphasis, absolutely gigantic.
  scott4570 Chief Train Controller

S set Car change, sighted May 29 3064 and 4130 from S72 now in the consist of S98.


S98 consist 3064, 4130, 4932, 3939.
S72 consist to be confirmed 3809, 4977, 4936, 3052.


- Scott.
"scott4570"


The above consists should have read-

S98 consist 3064, 4130, 4936, 3052.
S72 consist to be confirmed 3809, 4977, 4932, 3939.

Apologies.
- Scott.
  scott4570 Chief Train Controller

S set Car changes, sighted June 12:-

4945 in set S8 and 4704 in set S47 swapped.
S8 consist 3982, 4704, 4974, 3074.
S47 consist 3028, 4945, 4931, 3890.

4943 from S67 now in S82, 4157 from S82 now in S67, 3050 from S41 now in S67, 3904 from S82 now in S41, 4118 and 3018 from S57 now in S67.
S41 consist 3920, 4033, 4053, 3904.
S67 consist 3066, 4157, 4118, 3018.
S82 consist 3954, 4093, 4943, 3050. (Note: 4943 and 3050 were the unallocated spare cars at Mortdale Car Sidings for many years)
S57 consist to be confirmed: 3011, 4042, 4077 (ex S67), 3079 (ex S67).

3939 from set S72 now in the consist of S53.
S53 consist: 3939, 4133, 4048, 3888.
S72 consist to be confirmed: 3809, 4977, 4932, 3857 (ex S53).


- Scott.
  Black1050 Chief Train Controller

Location: Out of the Metrop
It is not just about the money. It is physically impossible...


Certainly, one could install it in cabinets or some other unconventional setup, but at this point in their lives, is it really worth it? I think not.
Watson374

Au contraire...

I recently had quite a long chat to a driver who prior to becoming a driver, used to work in the carriage workshops, back when they used to design and build almost everything in house.  He recalled to me that he had been involved in a project where they (the carriage builders) had been given the task of designing a solution for retrofitting Aircon to S Sets.  Interestingly, it took a lot of collaboration from the various departments within the workshops, but they actually succeeded in designing a way to retrofit aircon into S sets, despite the limitations you've correctly pointed out.
Basically they were looking at fitting the Auxiliary Output Device from a Tangara, and run the electrical current into th