Media Reports on CityRail

 
  Black1050 Chief Train Controller

Location: Out of the Metrop
In this morning's SMH:

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/bound-for-bathurst--but-no-one-on-board-20130603-2nm4k.html
PeltonPinch

Well the writer/complainant has one thing right:

"All your department's reorganisations and silly name changes have achieved nothing to overcome the sullen, muddle-headed incompetence of your service. "

- Beyond that, I can see how he missed the Bathurst train.  That said, he's not the first and won't be the last to miss a train because they failed to read and understand what the words "First 4 Cars" means (in this case it was likely "First 2 Cars").  He even goes so far as to admit to his ignorance of not paying attention because he heard the destination of Wyong mentioned.  Had he actually listened he would have heard that the first 2 cars (or whatever number of cars) go to Bathurst, and the next 4 will go to Wyong.  I've seen plenty of people either fail to bother reading the indicator boards, and fail to listen to such announcements.  Amazing how it's always someone else's fault that they didn't listen or read, and as a result missed their train.
Once people learn that the First 4 (or however many) cars are the ones at the front of the train, then they are much less likely to miss their trains - assuming they bother to listen and read the information being presented to them at the station.

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  PeltonPinch Locomotive Fireman

Once people learn that the First 4 (or however many) cars are the ones at the front of the train, then they are much less likely to miss their trains - assuming they bother to listen and read the information being presented to them at the station.
Black1050
Big Assumption. People don't learn - I remember many moons ago when the service I caught with my father from central back to Newcastle was an 8 car train that split at Gosford (This was circa 1986, it may still happen for all I know), and although this was a daily occurrence, well signposted at Central (albiet on a mobile whiteboard), there was always a last minute rush of people running from the rear four to the front four at Gosford, because they "didn't know". Despite the guard announcements on the way...

But it does beg the question - why are the three services all on the same platform at central? Do they arrive at the platform as a single consist and have to be split into their next services?
  Black1050 Chief Train Controller

Location: Out of the Metrop
Big Assumption. People don't learn - I remember many moons ago when the service I caught with my father from central back to Newcastle was an 8 car train that split at Gosford (This was circa 1986, it may still happen for all I know), and although this was a daily occurrence, well signposted at Central (albiet on a mobile whiteboard), there was always a last minute rush of people running from the rear four to the front four at Gosford, because they "didn't know". Despite the guard announcements on the way...

But it does beg the question - why are the three services all on the same platform at central? Do they arrive at the platform as a single consist and have to be split into their next services?
PeltonPinch

Touche` .  Maybe I was being too optimistic in my hopes for the general public.  The 8 car Newcastle services are a great example actually.  The number of passengers wanting to alight from the first 4 cars between Gosford and Ourimbah, and Wyong and Morisset is still amazing.  Particularly the regulars.
They don't seem to learn.  Plenty more missed trains from Central (i) - unless they employ staff specifically to tell passengers at each set of 4 cars what the destination is.

As for why there were multiple trains on the same platform, that remains only in the wisdom of Sydney Box and Train Control.
  bowralcommuter Chief Commissioner

Location: Asleep on a Manly Ferry
You have to wonder how many were reading their mx while listening to their ipod. A lot of passengers will only give a s*** about anything when they get off or the train is delayed.
  abesty1 Chief Commissioner

Location: The CityRail Network
Graffiti


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPB65sDUa_U&feature=youtu.be
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
Having a friend who had a near miss passing that EXACT turnback at Chatswood, I completely agree with the way that story was presented. Good to see some of the recent non-beatup pieces on the news recently.
  abesty1 Chief Commissioner

Location: The CityRail Network
Skipped stops:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0472jPPZuo&feature=youtu.be
  Highrise Assistant Commissioner

A train skipping Central? I haven't heard of one intentional train skipping Central, apart from empty runs..
  Dungog Diesel Junior Train Controller

Yes I have to seriously question that too. Passenger trains skipping Central? I find that extremely hard to believe.

As for the passengers grumpily posting on social media about the driver who missed Mount Druitt... seriously people, get a grip! I wonder how many times those same passengers have caught the train home and the driver pulled up bang on the 8 car marker? How about every single time? Is it really that big an inconvenience to catch the train back one stop from St Mary's (during a peak period, no less) on the one occasion when your train misses a stop? No.

Overshoots and missed stops due to driver error are a rarity. Considering how many car drivers miss turn-offs & freeway exits, forget to indicate or don't bother stopping at pedestrian crossings, it's an absolute credit to train crew that mistakes due to human error occur on the railways as infrequently as they do.

Oh and of all the stations to miss, I have no problem with a driver missing Mount Drui.... No I'd better not finish that sentence.

*Rant over*
  Kamz Assistant Commissioner

A train skipping Central? I haven't heard of one intentional train skipping Central, apart from empty runs..
Highrise
Interesting top 10

Central, Redfern, Wollstonecraft, Waverton, Town Hall, Artarmon, Epping, Strathfield, St Leonards, Wolli Creek

Maybe those stats include trains which terminate short.
  Black1050 Chief Train Controller

Location: Out of the Metrop
Interesting top 10

Central, Redfern, Wollstonecraft, Waverton, Town Hall, Artarmon, Epping, Strathfield, St Leonards, Wolli Creek

Maybe those stats include trains which terminate short.
Kamz
That would make sense actually.  

That would at least explain Central, Redfern, Town Hall, Artarmon, Strathfield and St Leonards.  I have only heard of Central missed twice, and that was by the same driver.  Redfern is rarely missed by Suburban trains, but Intercity is more likely to happen because they usually don't stop there - on the UP or DOWN.  It would be rather difficult - almost deliberate to miss the likes of Artarmon, Strathfield and St Leonards.  There are very FEW passenger service tabled to miss them.  
It would make sense that a service that terminates at North Sydney or Wynyard for operational issues, would be considered to have missed Artarmon or St Leonards on the DOWN, or on the UP, Town Hall, or even Central perhaps.  Same of services that are terminated at Chatswood for operational reasons - technically Artarmon and St Leo would be missed.

Waverton and Wollstonecraft are a product of the timetablers making.  The rule of thumb that All ECRL services skip those two stations EXCEPT for some of those during morning and afternoon peak.  That's just setting them up to be missed, anyone with more than a beginner's knowledge of "Human Factors" or psychology will realise that it is due to their timetabling structure - it lulls the crews into a strong habit, and then trips them up with exceptions almost without notice.  A driver may drive ECRL services for 2 months, and not be tabled to stop at Waverton and Wollestonecraft, then due to changing shift times, the job they work is then tabled to stop at those two stations on their last run for the day - which is the 4th time they pass through that patch of track, and the previous 3 times that day they didn't stop.

As for the "missed Mt Druitt", rather unfortunate - however there maybe more to it, than what a train load of twitter users are aware of.  There may have been a safety assessment made and decision made accordingly.  Those that know will understand.  Suffice to say it's not always a black and white case of "the driver forgot".

Re the top 10, I'm surprised Burwood and Clyde and Harris Park didn't get a showing or honourable mentions...
  s3_gunzel Not a gunzel developer

Location: Western Sydney, AU
Similarly, we overshot Vineyard on Wednesday Morning. But that was due to heavy fog. We were halfway over the crossing (front car) by the time we stopped.

Ahhh good times. East Richmond is notorious for overruns by trainee drivers too.
  abesty1 Chief Commissioner
  abesty1 Chief Commissioner

Location: The CityRail Network
Graffiti


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4haM-RE8AOA&feature=youtu.be
  Rails Chief Commissioner

Thanks for taking the time to record and post all these clips abesty1, I wouldnt see any of these if you didnt 8)
  bjwh86 Chief Train Controller

Tonight 7news has a bit on the new bench seating for cityrail (sydney trains)
On their twitter account has a pic of what seems to be a converted tangara.
  abesty1 Chief Commissioner

Location: The CityRail Network
Here we are


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ns8N8Bduf8&feature=youtu.be
  meh Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Whilst not entirely about Cityrail, this is an interesting, albeit rather ridiculous proposal:

http://www.smh.com.au/data-point/swap-you-chinese-skyscrapers-for-a-motorway-20130628-2p2qk.html

Edit: Just wanted to point out: the proposal involves replacing, as in demolishing and rebuilding the harbour bridge to accommodate more car and rail capacity.
  mandonov Station Staff

What did i just read?

I'm all for sinking the rail lines to Strathfield, but overhead conveyor belts to a prefabricated port? Above ground M4 East? Everything shipped from China, including workers? A cruise terminal at Fort Denison? REPLACING ONE OF THE MOST ICONIC BRIDGES IN THE WORLD!?

Is this seriously being considered or is this an enormous troll?
  meh Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
What did i just read?

I'm all for sinking the rail lines to Strathfield, but overhead conveyor belts to a prefabricated port? Above ground M4 East? Everything shipped from China, including workers? A cruise terminal at Fort Denison? REPLACING ONE OF THE MOST ICONIC BRIDGES IN THE WORLD!?

Is this seriously being considered or is this an enormous troll?
mandonov
Government knocked it on the head early on. The 'proposal' seems more like a low-grade assignment at high school rather than something serious, but Ross Cameron is still pushing for it to get done even though the state has rejected it.
  jcouch Assistant Commissioner

Location: Asleep on a commuter train
Have a look at the construction of warragamba dam. They did exactly this - a huge converyor of rock and other materials that stretched from around Penrith down to the construction site. Lasted for around 12 years too, so there's plenty of precedent for this style of work.
  D1566 Junior Train Controller

Here is another news clip about the new Sydney Trains uniform and delusional Gladys.




http://youtu.be/8vG1Y4vGQ4o
  T88 Junior Train Controller

Location: Banned
Massive landslide at Harris Park. Down main is buried in tons of dirt and rubble. Monday morning peak is going to be interesting.
I have pics and video. Not sure how to upload. No doubt by the morning the media will show it. Half the platform is buried. Wow!
  abesty1 Chief Commissioner

Location: The CityRail Network
Tardy trains


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHh9WC9p_Cs&feature=youtu.be
  abesty1 Chief Commissioner

Location: The CityRail Network
Passengers give their verdict on the "bench-seat" Tangara:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC1iL1-d3zg&feature=youtu.be

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