S, C & K sets. How much longer will they survive

 
  Enoreth Station Staff

Location: Broadmeadow, Newcastle. New South Wales
When do you think the last C, K or S set will lower its pantograph for the last time? I'm curious to this because they seem common on the city circuit in Sydney but apparently they have began scrapping. When did they enter service? Should one of each set be preserved.

-Eno Silvie

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  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
Because the C and K sets are air-conditioned, there is no political imperative to get rid of them ASAP; therefore, I expect them to operate until they completely and utterly clap out.
  C3600 Train Controller

Location: Coniston
Well look at it this way, K sets have bucket loads of spare parts now and to a lesser extent C sets.
The C sets downfall will be chopper spares running out and will more than likely be outlived by the K sets.
  bernerd Junior Train Controller

I would expect 2019-2020, by which time a Sector 3 replacement fleet is ready.
  matthewg Train Controller

Well look at it this way, K sets have bucket loads of spare parts now and to a lesser extent C sets.
The C sets downfall will be chopper spares running out and will more than likely be outlived by the K sets.
C3600

The Mitsubishi chopper modules are probably already considered obsolete. The supervisory fault finding 'computer' certainly is.

It will come down to 'substitute' or scrap.

The Tangara fleet will be a bigger issue - many more of them, and by the time the electronics becomes hard to repair when Mitsubishi stop making the modules, there probably won't be enough service life left on their frames to be worth spending the money on an electronics/computer refit.
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
The Tangara fleet will be a bigger issue - many more of them, and by the time the electronics becomes hard to repair when Mitsubishi stop making the modules, there probably won't be enough service life left on their frames to be worth spending the money on an electronics/computer refit.
"matthewg"
I'm hearing rumblings that the electronics and computers of the Tangaras are intended to be completely replaced as part of a supposedly imminent refurbishment project, that will apparently be much more extensive than the previous, partial 'Milgara' and 'Osgara' cosmetic refits.
  Goose Chief Train Controller

I'm hearing rumblings that the electronics and computers of the Tangaras are intended to be completely replaced as part of a supposedly imminent refurbishment project, that will apparently be much more extensive than the previous, partial 'Milgara' and 'Osgara' cosmetic refits.
Watson374
They are already working on that with redesigned TMS and doors etc.
  Johnny_Walton Railcorp Crash Test Dummy No.1

Location: Flemington Maintenance Centre
Hmmm.
I wonder how red rattlers ran from 1925 - the mid nineties?
How did various locomotives steam and diesel run for decades?
How does a bloody car run for 100 years!!
Think children!  
Use Google if you have to.  Mad

Jono.
  littleal9 Train Controller

Location: bellambi
Hmmm.
I wonder how red rattlers ran from 1925 - the mid nineties?
How did various locomotives steam and diesel run for decades?
How does a bloody car run for 100 years!!
Think children!  
Use Google if you have to.  Mad

Jono.
Johnny_Walton
They were not full of first generation electronics/computers that are no longer supported, plus the railways used to have a proper maintenance department (not denigrating the blokes doing the job now, but the powers that be running everything into the ground.)
  Nick-The-Great Station Staff

Location: Sydney
I won't miss the C sets. They're by far the least comfortable seats in the Cityrail fleet. I dread see