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      justapassenger Minister for Railways

    The full list of new Adelaide Metro fares has now been published, with the new fares starting on July 7 (Sunday week).

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    Regular fares
    Metrocard all times: $3.19 to $3.29 (+3.1%)
    Metrocard interpeak: $1.75 to $1.80 (+2.9%)
    Singletrip all times: $4.90 to $5.00 (+2.0%)
    Singletrip interpeak: $3.00 to $3.10 (+3.3%)
    2 Section Metrocard all times: $1.73 to $1.78 (+2.9%)
    2 Section Metrocard interpeak: $1.34 to $1.38 (+3.0%)
    2 Section Metroticket all times: $2.90 to $3.00 (+3.4%)
    2 Section Metroticket interpeak: $2.10 to $2.20 (+4.8%)
    Daytrip: $9.10 to $9.40 (+3.3%)

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    Concession and Tertiary Student fares
    Metrocard all times: $1.57 to $1.62 (+3.2%)
    Metrocard interpeak: $0.84 to $0.87 (+3.6%)
    Singletrip all times: $2.50 to $2.60 (+4.0%)
    Singletrip interpeak: $1.30 (no change)
    Daytrip: $4.50 to $4.70 (+4.4%)

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    Student fares
    Metrocard all times: $1.05 to $1.08 (+2.9%)
    Metrocard interpeak: $0.84 to $0.87 (+3.6%)
    Singletrip all times: $2.40 to $2.50 (+4.2%)
    Singletrip interpeak: $1.30 (no change)
    Daytrip: $4.50 to $4.70 (+4.4%)

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    Seniors Metrocard
    Peak Metrocard: $1.57 to $1.62 (+3.2%)
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    The average price increase across the 20 ticket types this time around is 3.1%, with the median increase being 3.3%. The increase in the Consumer Price Index from March 2012 to March 2013 was 2.2% in Adelaide (2.5% across Australia, all groups), which shows the price of public transport to the end user is continuing to outpace the overall cost of living, and running at well over double the transport group at 1.4% (whole of Australia).

    Not good news for those who only use public transport because they're too poor to drive, especially without the option to buy up Multitrip Metrotickets before the price hike.
    Posted: 26 Jun 2013 02:29

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      alcoworldseries Deputy Commissioner

    Location: Auburn
    Still cheap when compared to interstate.
    Posted: 26 Jun 2013 12:46
      mclaren2007 Assistant Commissioner

    Location: recharging my myki
    Actually the daytrip isn't, when I was in Melbourne it was $7
    Posted: 26 Jun 2013 12:54
      Tonsley213 Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Everywhere except South Kensington
    Yeah, but what zone are you talking about?
    Posted: 26 Jun 2013 12:56
      bevans Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Actually the daytrip isn't, when I was in Melbourne it was $7
    mclaren2007

    According to the myki website http://ptv.vic.gov.au/tickets/metropolitan-myki-fares/ the full fare for Zone 1 on a weekday is $7
    Posted: 26 Jun 2013 13:07
      Tonsley213 Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Everywhere except South Kensington
    Zone 1 is only something like 25kms from the city centre. Hardley compareable. Zone 1+2 is more like our ticket.
    Posted: 26 Jun 2013 13:15
      Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: University of Adelaide SA
    In return for this price hike I demand a 3% increase in timetable accuracy...
    Posted: 26 Jun 2013 16:36
      mclaren2007 Assistant Commissioner

    Location: recharging my myki
    According to the myki website http://ptv.vic.gov.au/tickets/metropolitan-myki-fares/ the full fare for Zone 1 on a weekday is $7
    bevans

    Oh yes forgot about the Zones Rolling Eyes
    Posted: 26 Jun 2013 20:24
      Halo Chief Train Controller

    Did anyone notice the small increase that snuck through with Metrocard???
    Posted: 27 Jun 2013 00:02
      justapassenger Minister for Railways

    Did anyone notice the small increase that snuck through with Metrocard???
    Halo
    You should look at the 2012-13 fares more carefully, the current Metrocard prices are exactly the same as the per trip rate on the old multitrip tickets. No price increase specific to Metrocard has been "snuck through" as yet, apart from the card purchase fee of $3.50 which has always been openly advertised.

    If you look at the range of price increases by percentage this time around, you'll see that the Metrocard fare hikes are seeing increases in roughly the same proportion as the paper tickets. The five heaviest fare hikes are all on paper tickets, while only one of the paper tickets getting increased has a percentage increase smaller than the smallest Metrocard fare hike.

    It's pretty clear to see why it was just the concession and student interpeak singles that didn't get a fare hike this time around. Even a 10c increase would have been 7.7% so those fares will wait until next year before being raised. Increasing those fares by only 5c would not be economical as it would force bus drivers to increase dwell times to deal with more fiddly coinage, and for the ticket machines on the trains and trams to be rebuilt (which should happen anyway due to the moronic decision not to allow a $5 fare to be purchased using a $5 note) to add the hardware needed to handle 5c coins.

    In the long run, I would favour a shift towards developing the Metrocard system further to allow touch on/off and a greater detection range, and withdrawing the majority all of the paper tickets other than the regular single, concession/student single and regular daytrip.
    Posted: 27 Jun 2013 01:35
      Halo Chief Train Controller

    When I started  on the Metrocard Trial, June last year, the Multitrip prices were places alongside the Metrocard prices and if memory serves I could have sworn there was a couple cents extra to pay when using the metrocard. I should look the paperwork up some time.
    Posted: 28 Jun 2013 19:53
      Tallboy-Lemond Station Master

    According to the myki website http://ptv.vic.gov.au/tickets/metropolitan-myki-fares/ the full fare for Zone 1 on a weekday is $7
    "bevans"



    plus you have to buy the myki card, so all up as a visitor it is $14.00
    Posted: 28 Jun 2013 19:58
      Station_Mutt Locomotive Fireman

    Location: Near the Cafeteria of the Adelaide Parklands Terminal!
    For the efficiencies of Metrocard, for the SA Govt and PTS and us, they should NOT have increased the Metrocard fares by that much, (if at all).

    Paper daytrip tickets and singles, ok, keep the increase..., but the Metrocard fares (I feel) should not have increased.

    The SA Govt under the Metrocard system does not have to print so many paper tickets, saving plastic, saving ink, saving drivers time...

    I see the uptake of it (Metrocard) seems to be quite good, a lot of people are using it, even more high school kids are tapping on when they get onto the bus in the mornings...

    I do notice some of our African "friends" are still cheating the system though, cunning of them... one taps on and passes the card to his friend, who then taps on, but of course, the second tap will buzz, ie, giving the second tapper on a free ride, as the driver does not keep an eye on a busy run.  I am not an employee of PTS, so even if I kicked up a stink, it would not be to anyone's advantage.
    Posted: 30 Jun 2013 01:38
      Station_Mutt Locomotive Fireman

    Location: Near the Cafeteria of the Adelaide Parklands Terminal!
    I can't wait till March next year, Jay and his mates, can enjoy the time they have left.

    Coo, just the SA state ALP wait, I will give you your just deserts...!

    Mr Jay, you are fired.

    State ALP gave Seniors the free ride between 9.00am and 3.00pm, they could have made an edict that Metrocard fares should not have gone up, but no, they let PTS do as PTS wished.

    Sorry for bringing politics into this.
    Posted: 30 Jun 2013 01:43
      justapassenger Minister for Railways

    I can't wait till March next year, Jay and his mates, can enjoy the time they have left.

    Coo, just the SA state ALP wait, I will give you your just deserts...!

    Mr Jay, you are fired.

    State ALP gave Seniors the free ride between 9.00am and 3.00pm, they could have made an edict that Metrocard fares should not have gone up, but no, they let PTS do as PTS wished.

    Sorry for bringing politics into this.
    Station_Mutt
    You're forgetting that by next March people will be sick of bending over for the Abbott regime, they'll be keen to take out their frustration on the state Liberals and keep Labor in power.

    I do notice some of our African "friends" are still cheating the system though, cunning of them... one taps on and passes the card to his friend, who then taps on, but of course, the second tap will buzz, ie, giving the second tapper on a free ride, as the driver does not keep an eye on a busy run.  I am not an employee of PTS, so even if I kicked up a stink, it would not be to anyone's advantage.
    Station_Mutt
    I think I know where they are learning it from, I saw the same behaviour from a number of white senior citizens on a bus one afternoon when it was too wet to cycle. I responded by distributing my bags over two other seats to make them stand, and told them I would be happy to inform the driver of their fare evasion if they asked the driver to make me clear the seats for them.

    Of course, when black people commit crimes they are reported by the Murdoch/Packer/Reinhart-controlled media as black people committing crimes, while white people committing crimes are just people committing crimes. No racism in Australia, no way. Rolling Eyes
    Posted: 30 Jun 2013 03:28

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      Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: University of Adelaide SA
    Of course, when black people commit crimes they are reported by the Murdoch/Packer/Reinhart-controlled media as black people committing crimes, while white people committing crimes are just people committing crimes. No racism in Australia, no way. Rolling Eyes
    "justapassenger"

    You must be watching a different TV news to me, white crime is reported, it's just always committed by people from Caucascus...

    There is a very good reason for reporting criminals who happen to be, as black, that being in a population overwhelmingly white the description of a male, 6' tall, dark hair, white T-shirt and blue jeans could be 50% of everyone. If you add in a non white skin colour suddenly that description now applies to only 50% of 1% of the population. It's not racism, it's discrimination, in the true sense of the word, and not in the sense of what the do-gooding left have corrupted the word's meaning.
    Posted: 30 Jun 2013 10:14

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      Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: University of Adelaide SA
    I think I know where they are learning it from, I saw the same behaviour from a number of white senior citizens on a bus one afternoon when it was too wet to cycle. I responded by distributing my bags over two other seats to make them stand, and told them I would be happy to inform the driver of their fare evasion if they asked the driver to make me clear the seats for them.
    "justapassenger"

    I have noticed that too! A cheeky fogie that I saw not validate a ticket requested that I stand, I refused and said 'no, I've paid for my seat, have you?' - no further response...
    Posted: 30 Jun 2013 10:20
      Seldom_21 Junior Train Controller

    Location: South Australia
    I have noticed that too! A cheeky fogie that I saw not validate a ticket requested that I stand, I refused and said 'no, I've paid for my seat, have you?' - no further response...
    Aaron
    Sliced and Diced

    Lots of them around
    Posted: 30 Jun 2013 10:50

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      Station_Mutt Locomotive Fireman

    Location: Near the Cafeteria of the Adelaide Parklands Terminal!
    Aye, those "Seniors" are very cunning.

    They do know they have to pay after 3pm.

    What was life like before they had the free rides between 9.01am and 2.59pm???

    They have it easy.

    Yes, the majority of them would have worked, but you can just imagine some of them who haven't, free ride after 9.01am not enough , that they still play the game.

    NOT to mention the young ones, "non Africans" who just hold their Metrocard far from the reader, but no ping or buzz and just walk past the reader.

    Its a pity that the SA Govt had chosen this Metrocard system that is still easy to cheat.

    Wilsons Security are not effective, people know what they look like, and as soon as the 4 wheel drive goes away, the games and yahoo factor starts again.

    Should add that these comments are all for the buses... the trains must be similar, eh?  Tricks of the misuse of the Metrocard.
    Posted: 30 Jun 2013 12:19
      Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: University of Adelaide SA
    Yes, the majority of them would have worked, but you can just imagine some of them who haven't, free ride after 9.01am not enough , that they still play the game.
    Station_Mutt
    Like the one that often boards at my stop and boards the 8.55am bus and says to the driver 'I am just going to wait til after nine to beep my card' - I boarded after her one morning when she did this so I didn't wave my card at the machine either, the driver called me on it and I just said 'I'll validate when you make her' he didn't make the lady validate so I didn't, I then changed busses and validated on the next one hence during the interpeak period. I will happily pay full fare before 9am when the seniors pay their fare, and I will happily have them ride free during interpeak, but I will not pay a full fair before 9am if they are boarding free 'because it's close enough' - not a chance, not that day, not ever.
    Posted: 30 Jun 2013 14:34

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