Auscision N sets have arrived

 
  2LaGrange Train Controller

I think 99.99% of people will be more than happy with Auscisions efforts with the N cars.As for striving for accuracy in models if you are that concerend why leave it up to a manufacturer to produce your models,make them yourself if you think you can do a better job.There are always compromises when making scale models 87 times smaller than the subject.I have yet to see a model produced that someone doesnt complain about some aspect of model,theres just no pleasing some people.We are spoilt with the amount and quality of models being produced in australian outline these days.

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  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
I've not seen any baseless complaining in this thread, I've seen a couple of factual issues raised, but without complaint or ire. Perhaps people need to take a deep breath before flying off the handle at VN18? Get it? Handle? I'll show myself out then.
  mattrawls Chief Train Controller

Location: Newport Workshops (Steamrail)
Yes the BRN buffet windows are wrong and should have the sliver bands through them....I wonder how hard it will be to remove the windows and paint the strips on them?
  VN18 Junior Train Controller

Location: Central Highlands
Yes the BRN buffet windows are wrong and should have the sliver bands through them....I wonder how hard it will be to remove the windows and paint the strips on them?
"mattrawls"


Wonder if anyone makes decals? Cut them to shape maybe..
  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
There are always compromises when making scale models 87 times smaller than the subject.
"2LaGrange"

A paint/livery error is a flaw or defect NOT an engineering compromise.
  trawny Train Controller

Location: Victoria
Got my two N sets yesterday. N2 in MK2 VLP Red White Blue and N15 in MK3 VLP Grey White and red. They look great behind my cheeseburger N.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/86634340@N02/9242531425/
  VN18 Junior Train Controller

Location: Central Highlands
A paint/livery error is a flaw or defect NOT an engineering compromise.
"Aaron"


Exactly, poor quality control.

A mate got VPS-15 (N11) only to find it was stenciled as N15 however still had N11 car numbers.. ACN33 etc.
  Roachie Chief Commissioner

Location: Kadina SA (formerly NSW)
I apologise for my earlier "harsh" comments.

I guess that because I started my model railway endeavours back in the early 70's, I view any of these new crop of models from the various manufacturers as purely awesome. Compared to the old Friedmont and Protype kits we had available (for which we modellers of that era were VERY grateful and happy to either make do or to add extra detail as required), these current models from Auscision, SDS, On-Track, TOR and even the much maligned offerings from Columbia etc, are just fantastic.

Given the amount of work we old blokes had to put in to just get a model with a half-decent representation of the prototype, I hope you will forgive me for thinking that we are very spoilt these days.

The proportion of my weekly wage that a Workshop 5 passenger carriage (for example) would have consumed in the early 1970's, would have been roughly comparable to what a person in a comparable job would expect to pay today for these nice carriages.....yet the buyer of today has a beautiful RTR model compared to the prospect of spending many (enjoyable) hours at the work bench, filing, gluing, detailing (often with parts we had to make from scratch), painting, lining and decalling.

So, please forgive me if I jumped from a great height when it was pointed out that a couple of windows weren't painted correctly. You have still received beautiful models and have the choice as to whether to use them as is, or show off your modelling skills and modify to what you consider to be the correct standard.

The risk we face from comments such as "poor quality control" and "BN16 has car 'B' plates and should be car 'C'.  The upside-down U for the pull release should be on a separate plate, not the ID plate (on the bottom sill) should also be on both sides not just the B side.  And P,V dates missing on one side"   etc, is that the importer (Auscision in this case), could just throw their hands up in the air and say: "It's all too hard...no matter how good our product is, we can never hope to please the fastidious modellers of today, so I think we'll go and do something easier, like land a man on Mars".

Once again, please accept my apologies.

Roachie
  Teditor Deputy Commissioner

Location: Toowoomba
Most of the post removed to eliminate repeticious reading.
Once again, please accept my apologies.

Roachie
Roachie
Roachie, I don't really think you need to apologise, everybody sees what they get differently, I know some modellers that would be happy if these were an old Athearn heavyweight painted up, while others can be over fastidious.

I participate on a lot of forums and it doesn't matter what country or prototype, there will always be someone that finds fault in some way or other with a model/manufacturer or both.

Where I get my dander up is the people (and I leave out the word modeller here!), that find faults of all kinds in all products, but have possibly never actually modelled something accurately (or inaccurately) themselves, it is far easier to criticise others than to build it yourself and be criticised.

Personally I also feel that the "I won't buy that because its wrong" brigade are seen as a majority possibly because that is a good way to get out of saying I can't afford it, we all know what that's like, and it can be an effective defense weapon.

Of course, the doomsayers are always in the majority on forums such as this, I'm sure the majority of buyers are silently happy with what they get and if need be, rectify any minor problems to their own satisfaction if they deem it as necessary.

Ted (Teditor) Freeman.
  Bills_Billboards Chief Commissioner

Wonder if anyone makes decals? Cut them to shape maybe..

Someone rattled my chain lol guess who does silver decal stripes for the tea cup livery Wink
  gnx1987 Station Master

Bit fussy?.....Do ya think!!!!!

Far-king-hell......there is really no pleasing some people!!! Check the door handles too....I reckon somebody has wiped the passengers' finger prints off!!! Wink

Get a life!!

Roachie
Roachie
Gold.
  VN18 Junior Train Controller

Location: Central Highlands
Someone rattled my chain lol guess who does silver decal stripes for the tea cup livery Wink
"Bills_Billboards"


Haha was thinking someone would! Better stock up mate. Should be easy as to lineup with the top/bottom of the window frame, well more so than a flight to Mars Wink
  Victralian Station Master

Location: Melbourne
Has anyone experienced "bits" in the bottom of the boxes?  I had ordered VPS-7 N Set V/Line Orange/Silver N12 & VPS-12 N Set V/Line Pass Mk1 Red/White/Blue N13.  Both are absolute stunners, however, I found two small "bits" in the red/maroon colour that I cannot find where they go.  Has anyone else experienced this?


  vjm Locomotive Fireman

Has anyone experienced "bits" in the bottom of the boxes?  I had ordered VPS-7 N Set V/Line Orange/Silver N12 & VPS-12 N Set V/Line Pass Mk1 Red/White/Blue N13.  Both are absolute stunners, however, I found two small "bits" in the red/maroon colour that I cannot find where they go.  Has anyone else experienced this?
Victralian

Yep.  They've come off the D van, the light tabs at one or possibly both ends near the roof.  Looks like they are held on with just paint.
  james13 Chief Commissioner

Location: At the Skunk Works
Haha was thinking someone would! Better stock up mate. Should be easy as to lineup with the top/bottom of the window frame, well more so than a flight to Mars Wink
VN18

Done

Sorry about the crappy pic
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  VN18 Junior Train Controller

Location: Central Highlands
Done

Sorry about the crappy pic
[img]http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt233/james1377/20130709_204928-1_zpsc4ae0737.jpg[/img]
"james13"


Yeah looks awesome as! Who's decals were they?
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
That was quick James!

Regards,
David Head
  Scott Station Master

And the world keeps turning......
  Victralian Station Master

Location: Melbourne
http://www.flickr.com/photos/95851236@N07/9245448183/

The mystery pieces.  Two of them
  Victralian Station Master

Location: Melbourne
Yep.  They've come off the D van, the light tabs at one or possibly both ends near the roof.  Looks like they are held on with just paint.
vjm

Spot on thank you
  TheMeddlingMonk Deputy Commissioner

Location: The Time Vortex near Melbourne, Australia
I was sorely tempted by the V/Line Passenger sets, but cannot justify the price at the moment. I know we are spoilt for choice in terms of available RTR rollingstock and the detail/quality today, but I wish there was a middle-of-the-road range that wasn't quite so highly detailed and hence more affordable for those of us on limited budgets... (I think Austrains Basix is the only one in this category at present, although I stand to be corrected).
  vjm Locomotive Fireman

Exactly, poor quality control.

A mate got VPS-15 (N11) only to find it was stenciled as N15 however still had N11 car numbers.. ACN33 etc.
VN18

Same as my VPS-15... marked as N15 instead of N11, and BN25 has C plates at one end and B plates at the other end.  Both sides.
  LochRannoch Junior Train Controller

I note no-one has noted the incorrectly gauged wheels???? Laughing Am I right I thinking the VLP MK111 set SN15 is technically the only one to run on the Standard Gauge?

I am sure mine are flying through the air as I type just about to get picked up by UK customs!!
  VN18 Junior Train Controller

Location: Central Highlands
I note no-one has noted the incorrectly gauged wheels???? Laughing Am I right I thinking the VLP MK111 set SN15 is technically the only one to run on the Standard Gauge?

I am sure mine are flying through the air as I type just about to get picked up by UK customs!!
"LochRannoch"


SN1, 15 and 16 all run on the SG. SN15 was outshopped in Mk3 on the BG (before SG services were ready to start) all SN sets differ in a big way however to the classic or BG sets. Also SN15 has only ever operated as a 5 car set (in vlp Mk3) with PCJ.
  james13 Chief Commissioner

Location: At the Skunk Works
Yeah looks awesome as! Who's decals were they?
VN18

I'm pretty sure they are realy old BGB decals, but there are some equivelants from Microscale available, as per the links below.
Both pack will be more than enough to do 50 sets but they will need some trimming to fit the windows.Wink


http://www.microscale.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=MD&Product_Code=PS-4-1-8&Product_Count=&Category_Code


http://www.microscale.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=MD&Product_Code=PS-4-1-4&Product_Count=&Category_Code=

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