RRL Project - West Werribee / Southern Cross

 
  woodford Chief Commissioner

It appears they have started to widen the deck of the North Melbourne flyover, 2 metre wide extensions on each side have currently been installed for some distance at each end of the flyover. These extensions are very heavily constructed, at the moment they curiously do not have an upper deck being essentially a heavy frame, they measure close to 200 centimetres wide (ie the deck has been widened 4 metres) with three main longditudenal beams, on the curve sections the outer two being 300x75  by at least 12 mm thick, the inner being a universal beam 300x170 by at least 24mm thick. This latter must be two channels back to back as UB appears to be not made in that size and thickness.

The length of the spans for the curved sections being in the area of 2.5 to 3 metres long.

On the southern end of the sections at the northend end of the flyover there appear to be clear pads for these to be extended further south.

woodford

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  hidden Chief Train Controller

It appears they have started to widen the deck of the North Melbourne flyover, 2 metre wide extensions
woodford
woodford
They are new walkways.
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

Government will want to get some Brownie Points for  RRL  asap and ahead of the State election next year .  As such a staged usage of RRL as work is completed is likely to be pursued along the lines of  :

1.  On completion of RRL track pair from Southern Cross platforms 15/16 to South Kensington :  All through Gippslands (LH & DMU) and  all Geelong DMU could  then use RRL  from Southern Cross (15/16) to the Up end of South Kensington .  

2. On completion RRL  track pair from Southern Cross over Nth Melb flyover to Spion Kop Junction then all Geelongs, Warrnambools ex plats 1 - 8 could also use RRL to Sth Ken .

3. On completion of RRL track pair between South Ken and Sunshine then all Ballarats & Bendigos ex all plats at Sthn Cross could also use RRL all the way to Sunshine.

4. Finally when  Deer Park West to West Werribee is completed then all South Western trains can use RRL all the way to West Werribee .

Progressive introduction of RRL as above also benefits Metro in progressively removing conflicts at Franklin St &  Nth Melbourne Junction , finishing in release of all the existing VLP paths in the Werribee corridor for Metro use .
  bayside1 Station Master

Government will want to get some Brownie Points for  RRL  asap and ahead of the State election next year .  As such a staged usage of RRL as work is completed is likely to be pursued along the lines of  :

1.  On completion of RRL track pair from Southern Cross platforms 15/16 to South Kensington :  All through Gippslands (LH & DMU) and  all Geelong DMU could  then use RRL  from Southern Cross (15/16) to the Up end of South Kensington .  

2. On completion RRL  track pair from Southern Cross over Nth Melb flyover to Spion Kop Junction then all Geelongs, Warrnambools ex plats 1 - 8 could also use RRL to Sth Ken .

3. On completion of RRL track pair between South Ken and Sunshine then all Ballarats & Bendigos ex all plats at Sthn Cross could also use RRL all the way to Sunshine.

4. Finally when  Deer Park West to West Werribee is completed then all South Western trains can use RRL all the way to West Werribee .

Progressive introduction of RRL as above also benefits Metro in progressively removing conflicts at Franklin St &  Nth Melbourne Junction , finishing in release of all the existing VLP paths in the Werribee corridor for Metro use .
kuldalai
Do we know when Geelong and Gippsland services will use platform 15/16 and in Geelong cases connect at the UP end of South Kensington
  trainbrain Chief Commissioner

Maybe I am Dumb question............

Will all Geelong services run via the new rail line , or will some peak services still travel via Werribee, especially for those people from Werribee that work in Geelong?
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

Maybe I am Dumb question............

Will all Geelong services run via the new rail line , or will some peak services still travel via Werribee, especially for those people from Werribee that work in Geelong?
trainbrain
1.  With the way things are going between 15/16 at Southern Cross, Spion Kop Junction that RRL track pair to South Ken could well be usable later this year or early 2014 .  So potentially Gippslands and  DMU  South Westerns  should be able to use that part of RRL from whenever that trackage becomes available.

2.  When RRL is fully complete all south westerns will run via RRL and NOT via Werribee .  Initially DOT has proposed a bus link between Wyndamvale station on RRL and the existing Werribee station .  Ultimately the Metro train plan allows for extension of the the existing Werribee Metro service to Wyndamvale which is designed from the outset to ultimately become an interchange between Geelong & Werribee  services .

Another way to provide this link would be to run a Single Sprinter shuttle on an hourly basis between  Lara & Werribee connecting with through Geelong trains.
However VLP seem reluctant to use the Sprinters for Shuttle services which they are ideal for like 1. Sunshine - Melton  2.  Geelong - Ballarat  3.  Ballarat - Maryborough  4. Bendigo - Echuca.
  historian Deputy Commissioner

Some notes as to the state of play on Tuesday 25 June. Please note that these were jotted down from the train, so some details may be misleading!

At South Kensington a double crossover to the Williamstown line has been installed from the RRL tracks to Spion Kop. The RRL tracks then merge into a single line towards the former goods lines. A trailing crossover has been installed in the Williamstown line and then a single turnout towards the former goods lines. All the old crossovers at the Up end of the platform have been removed. All signalling associated with the former goods line junctions has been removed, but the signal bridge near the old signal box is intact - possibly it will be reused.

The goods lines have been lifted behind the platform and around the curve leading to Sims St Junction. The new embankment to Kensington Rd seems to be about 3/4 constructed. The spans of the viaduct between Kensington Rd and the Maribrynong River have started being erected. Two or three spans have been raised at each end. At the Western end, the spans end at the river edge and the decking is not quite complete.

The embankment between the end of the viaduct and the new flyover has not been constructed yet, although its location is very apparent now.

The deck of the flyover between the River and Footscray is nearly complete - its very easy to visualise the track layout in this area now. The embankment on the west side of the flyover has been started; this is shorter and is the ramp down to the current Williamstown lines. The alignment of the future Williamstown line is being finished.

The cutting to the east of the Hopkins St bridge is essentially completed to the formation level, with the exception of a small amount of excavation particularly on the north side near the bridge itself. Overhead stanchions have been erected.

The northern extension of the Hopkins St bridge is well on the way on the eastern half of the bridge (which has been closed to traffic for a long while). No work apparently has been done on the western half of the bridge, and the cutting on the western side hasn't been started.

Work continues at Footscray station itself, but I didn't get a good view from the train.

Nothing has been done between Footscray station and Albert St since my last trip. Now that the Albert St bridge has reopened, I believe this will be a major works site over the next two weeks to demolish the Nicholson St bridge and widen the cuttings. Incidentally, I noticed that the southern abutment of the old Albert St bridge is still standing. Presumably this, too, will be removed in the next two weeks.

The bridge deck at Victoria St (Middle Footscray) has been erected, and the formation leading up to it on the east side has been completed. It appears the drainage works behind the Middle Footscray platform has been completed and work is underway to construct the formation. No work has commenced between there and West Footscray.

No changes have been made to the current West Footscray station, including the signal box. The foundations of the new station have been completed, including the platform buildings. All the piers appear to have been erected, and they were erecting the first span (at the end of the ramp to the future platforms). They were busy constructing a large truss span which I would assume will span the existing lines. Again, I would guess that its erection will occur during the next two weeks.

Between West Footscray and Tottenham the formation has been completed in patches.

A new substation is being erected at the start of the embankment to the Ashley St bridge (Tottenham). (The current substation is between Ashley St and the goods triangle and is in the way of the new lines.) The shell is completed and work is continuing on the fitout. It looks similar to the substations on the Sunbury electrification.

At Tottenham, the embankment on the east side of Ashley St seems to be about half complete. The bridge has been decked. The western embankment seems to be complete, but there were still dump trucks and compactors working.

From the end of this embankment the roadbed appears to be similar to that east of Tottenham - largely cleared but with more work to do. This extends to past the two overbridges for the Tottenham Junction triangle. From there into Sunshine the roadbed appears to be largely complete, including the bridge over the bridge over the Stony Creek and a smaller bridge just before Sunshine.

The connections at the Up end of Sunshine to the Brooklyn line are unchanged, and its difficult to see what will happen in this area. Digging is progressing on the far side of the tracks - possibly the goods lines will be slewed further west. At Sunshine itself, one span of the concourse has been erected over the main lines, but not over the back platform or standard gauge lines. It appears that another truss is being constructed here.

Looking down the Ballarat line, the North Line has been removed through Anderson St and the former roadbed has been fenced off from the remaining South Line. Excavation has commenced in the fenced off area for the rail ramps to the underpass.

Back on the main line, little work has been done on the track bed. The former Sidings B have been removed to beyond Anderson St, but remain in the vicinity of the former Darling flour mill at Albion. The standard gauge bridge has been provided at Anderson St, and the standard gauge line slewed to the east to run over it. The road underpass beneath the bridge has not yet been dug out, which makes for an odd sight.

Workers were swarming over Albion station buildings - presumably to provide facilities for terminating trains over the school holidays.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
A few questions

The new standard gauge overpass bridge at Andersons Road, has been built to the East of the original alinement and slewed on to It.

Well the two suburban lines be slewed East on to a new overpass bridge built next to the standard gauge overpass ?

Or will the suburban lines stay on their current alinement and the gap beteen the standard gauge and suburban lines be reserved for duplication of the standard gauge (when the time comes for that to happen)

The overpass bridge for the suburban lines could also be built West of the current alinement and slewed West on to It, this would leave space for 3 tracks In the middle for future development (6 running mainlines)
  Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

Location:
According to the video at the RRL site the BG lines will be in the same alignment.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
According to the video at the RRL site the BG lines will be in the same alignment..
Gauntlet


They are only animation video's and the video doesn't show a wop / slew In the mainlines, they are just straight like their original alinements.
  2502 Station Staff

hi all, just wondering how is freight traffic disrupted
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
hi all, just wondering how is freight traffic disrupted
2502
Possibly diverted via Geelong?
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Looked like the goods line through Footscray was blocked by construction machinery today.
  michaelnorman Beginner

The regional rail link website have a whole heap of photos from the works that have been taken place during the school holidays which can be found here
Also they have uploaded another flyover

http//youtu.be/AtL3LBoFeKQ (not sure on how to embedded youtube videos)

The most interest I have is with the photos of sunshine showing the "Construction of the new tracks and the pattern of tracks known as the Sunshine Dual Ladder", looking forward to seeing when the trains start running again next week
  Skipdaddyo Chief Train Controller

Location: Living the dream
Here should presumably be here Wink
  trainbrain Chief Commissioner

Don't count your luck for the trains to return on Monday morning, just got a call from work to have coaches in place at Bachuss Marsh station on Monday morning. Will not find out until 6.00pm Sunday...........
  michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!
  HardSleeper Junior Train Controller

Location: Route 48


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtL3LBoFeKQ
michaelgreenhill
I notice on this most recent flyover video that there appears to be 2 sets of decking across all the creeks and roads from just north of the junction with the Geelong line to the new Wyndham Vale station, but not north of Wyndham Vale. Does this mean the Werribee line will be extended sooner than expected, or is it simply a case of (exceedingly rare) forward planning for once?
  michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne
I notice on this most recent flyover video that there appears to be 2 sets of decking across all the creeks and roads from just north of the junction with the Geelong line to the new Wyndham Vale station, but not north of Wyndham Vale. Does this mean the Werribee line will be extended sooner than expected, or is it simply a case of (exceedingly rare) forward planning for once?
HardSleeper
Forward planning, I'd guess.
  Simbera Train Controller

Don't count your luck for the trains to return on Monday morning, just got a call from work to have coaches in place at Bachuss Marsh station on Monday morning. Will not find out until 6.00pm Sunday...........
trainbrain
I saw a P Class push-pull (very slowly) going Up through Deer Park just as my bus got in around 1230 today, presumably to make sure everything's ready to go for tomorrow morning. Hopefully that's a good sign.
  trainbrain Chief Commissioner

I saw a P Class push-pull (very slowly) going Up through Deer Park just as my bus got in around 1230 today, presumably to make sure everything's ready to go for tomorrow morning. Hopefully that's a good sign.
"Simbera"


Geez hope so, I am over this Vline rail releif. getting up at 3am every morning, so far phone has not rung............
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
So this project Is going to take another three years to complete ?

Progress looks amazing

Will progress come to a gringing holt when funds run dry
  Carnot Minister for Railways

I get the impression that since very few public infrastructure projects apart from this one are on the go at present in Victoria, they are able to throw resources at it.  The weather has mostly been quite kind as well so far this year too.
  Apocalyptical Locomotive Fireman

For anyone interested, V/Line have published an extensive list of proposed shut downs for the remainder of this year and very early into 2014. Most of the proposed dates relate to weekend RRL works but there are some big ones:

* 3 October 2013 to 11 October 2013 - Bendigo / Ballarat (coach replacement)
* 27 December 2013 to 19 January 2014 - Bendigo / Ballarat / Albury (coach replacement)

http://www.vline.com.au/timetables/timetables/servicechanges.html

Although proposed-only at this stage, I can at least properly plan for it.
  wolfpac Minister for Railways

Location: Over here...
For anyone interested, V/Line have published an extensive list of proposed shut downs for the remainder of this year and very early into 2014. Most of the proposed dates relate to weekend RRL works but there are some big ones:

* 3 October 2013 to 11 October 2013 - Bendigo / Ballarat (coach replacement)
* 27 December 2013 to 19 January 2014 - Bendigo / Ballarat / Albury (coach replacement)

http://www.vline.com.au/timetables/timetables/servicechanges.html

Although proposed-only at this stage, I can at least properly plan for it.
Apocalyptical
Interesting the first one (Oct 2013) is the week after the school holidays finish for Term 3/4...

You'd think they'd have it in the second week of holidays like they did this break?

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