Removal of timetable posters at stations

 
  Blackadder Chief Commissioner

Location: Not the ECRL
Could they not have just covered the obsoleted logo with stickers printed with the new logo?
The place where I work has such stickers for its bags of kindling to change its net weight label from 5kg to 7kg. (Granted, I would've done a better job of designing those stickers than printing a yellow "7" on a small red square within a large white sticker, but that's none of here, there or yonder.)
Murasaki
That would be logical, but this whole re-branding exercise has been anything but.
Seems to defeat the purpose of removing the timetables for the logo, when train crew are still displaying the Cityrail logo, can still see the Cityrail network map in trains, etc.
Not holding my breath on new timetable posters becoming available until the new timetables come out in October.

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  Murasaki Chief Train Controller

Location: Going sideways... in carriage DET-9216 (>ω<)
No worries. I still have my personalised 178-page PDF to consult, or one of my four (paper) display books to take with me (òwó).
  XAM2175 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Glasgow
When Connex gave way to Metro Trains Melbourne at 3am on 30 November 2009 there were teams of people out overnight putting little pieces of tape, or bigger Metro logo stickers, over every Connex logo they could find. They even had little strips of adhesive-backed metal to put over the Connex logos on emergency intercom panels in trains.

Surely somebody considered that for this change-over, if the Cityrail brand is so objectionable now?
  Blackadder Chief Commissioner

Location: Not the ECRL
When Connex gave way to Metro Trains Melbourne at 3am on 30 November 2009 there were teams of people out overnight putting little pieces of tape, or bigger Metro logo stickers, over every Connex logo they could find. They even had little strips of adhesive-backed metal to put over the Connex logos on emergency intercom panels in trains.

Surely somebody considered that for this change-over, if the Cityrail brand is so objectionable now?
jb17kx

Would have thought so, but appreantly not.
  sssshhhh! Beginner

Surely somebody considered that for this change-over, if the Cityrail brand is so objectionable now?
jb17kx

Theirs still Cityrail uniforms being worn. No trains apart from Waratards seem to have a new logo. Seriously though who is a rebranding fooling with no change to service levels?
  simonl Chief Commissioner

Location: Brisbane
Seriously though who is a rebranding fooling with no change to service levels?
sssshhhh!
The leaked draft timetable has some improvement to service levels.  So long as you don't want to travel on a weekend.
  drgarbanzo Locomotive Driver

I think the last time I looked at a timetable on a station might have been a couple of years ago when my phone ran out of battery and I needed to know the train time. The rest of the time I've used nothing but tripview and in some of the newer versions of it do have real time statistics which don't always work but will show you if the train is a minute or 2 late or more depending on the situation.
  T88 Junior Train Controller

Location: Banned
The leaked draft timetable has some improvement to service levels.  So long as you don't want to travel on a weekend.
simonl
Cumberland line or the junkie express is back baby!
  smithagain Junior Train Controller

If everyone has a mobile phone nowdays (as some here like to think) why are public phones still on stations?  I work at a relatively small station, there is one public phone and people actually use it!  The time table posters are a similar public service as public phones, I think.  They should be there for those people who don't have or can't use a mobile.
  darcyj Chief Train Controller

The leaked draft timetable has some improvement to service levels.  So long as you don't want to travel on a weekend.
simonl

In other words, they've taken their cue from ACTION Buses in Canberra?  Quicker to walk on a Sunday in some areas (and compulsory to walk after 7pm on a Sunday).

JPD
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
In other words, they've taken their cue from ACTION Buses in Canberra?  Quicker to walk on a Sunday in some areas (and compulsory to walk after 7pm on a Sunday).
"darcyj"
The last time I was in Canberra,  if a bus wasn't around the bend, it was faster to walk from ANU to Civic throughout most of the day.
  darcyj Chief Train Controller

The last time I was in Canberra,  if a bus wasn't around the bend, it was faster to walk from ANU to Civic throughout most of the day.
Watson374

Meh, that's only from here to there (he says, pointing across the room).  The real bus timetable crimes in Canberra are out in the suburbs, and here's an example:  The Blue Rapid buses (300, 312, 313, 314, 315, 318, 319) use Athllon Drive to get between Woden and Tuggeranong.  There are no stops for these express buses on Athllon Drive between Sullwood Drive and Learmonth Drive, even though the route passes parts of Kambah and Wanniassa and is handy to two small commercial centres (Sangster Place, Wanniassa, and the Jenke Circuit complex in Kambah).  A commuter in any of those areas must catch the meandering local service, running only hourly during the daytime as opposed to the 12-per-hour Blue Rapids.

Sorry about the forum-irrelevant rant Confused
  Kurmudgeon Junior Train Controller

When Connex gave way to Metro Trains Melbourne at 3am on 30 November 2009 there were teams of people out overnight putting little pieces of tape, or bigger Metro logo stickers, over every Connex logo they could find. They even had little strips of adhesive-backed metal to put over the Connex logos on emergency intercom panels in trains.

Surely somebody considered that for this change-over, if the Cityrail brand is so objectionable now?
jb17kx

Perhaps it has something to do with getting rid of staff and leaving no-one available to do this. And I can't imagine Aunty G and Fatty O'Barrel out there doing it themselves
  T88 Junior Train Controller

Location: Banned
If everyone has a mobile phone nowdays (as some here like to think) why are public phones still on stations?  I work at a relatively small station, there is one public phone and people actually use it!  The time table posters are a similar public service as public phones, I think.  They should be there for those people who don't have or can't use a mobile.
smithagain
Because the mobile phone users are on pre pay and probably out of credit.Wink
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
At my station in Sydney timetables and other posters have relocated to brand new two legged "plinths."
  Davy Deputy Commissioner

Location: Old Main South
If you'd actually taken the time to read my post properly, you'd have seen that I found his observation quite valid. It's the bandwagon effect that I objected to.

But by your logic, I'm also "allowed to voice my concern", am I not? I didn't attack anyone specifically, I didn't call people names? Are people so afraid of a spade being called a spade?
Raichase
I did read your post, but it was not clear if the last comment was directed at him or not. If it was not at him, then ignore my post.
  EMD-SD45X Chief Train Controller

Because after you have 'fixed the trains' they become frequent, quick and reliable train services not requiring timetables...

and with those Jet Star uniforms they take off and land on time too.
  EMD-SD45X Chief Train Controller

Theirs still Cityrail uniforms being worn. No trains apart from Waratards seem to have a new logo. Seriously though who is a rebranding fooling with no change to service levels?
sssshhhh!

I think the court case/action from Tennis Australia might have slowed the application of said logos.
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
and with those Jet Star uniforms they take off and land on time too.
"EMD-SD45X"
...with impeccable customer service, of course.
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
I think the court case/action from Tennis Australia might have slowed the application of said logos.
EMD-SD45X
...and I've still yet to see a shred of evidence that such a court case even exists. Yesterday on the Bankstown Line, we noticed ONE Waratah without the new logo, the other sets all had the new logos applied. Anyone who thinks that they have "slowed down" the application of the new logo to the trains is walking around with their eyes closed.
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
At my station in Sydney timetables and other posters have relocated to brand new two legged "plinths."
awsgc24
Small correction: the timetable is the NiteRide bus timetable, not the rail timetable.
  bowralcommuter Chief Commissioner

Location: Asleep on a Manly Ferry
...and I've still yet to see a shred of evidence that such a court case even exists. Yesterday on the Bankstown Line, we noticed ONE Waratah without the new logo, the other sets all had the new logos applied. Anyone who thinks that they have "slowed down" the application of the new logo to the trains is walking around with their eyes closed.
"Raichase"


Agreed, I searched google with "Sydney Trains Court Case", "Sydney Trains court" and "Sydney Trains Tennis Australia" and found nothing about it. I suggest provide proof or keep your mouth shut.
  Blackadder Chief Commissioner

Location: Not the ECRL
Agreed, I searched google with "Sydney Trains Court Case", "Sydney Trains court" and "Sydney Trains Tennis Australia" and found nothing about it. I suggest provide proof or keep your mouth shut.
bowralcommuter
"Proof" may be masked by a confidentiality clause.
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
"Proof" may be masked by a confidentiality clause.
Blackadder
Typically there is some mention of "a lawsuit" in the media, especially given that the media has already commented on how similar the logos appeared to be. From the original story, it was not Tennis Australia having a fuss but a media outlet (obviously anti-government). Tennis Australia made no comment. As that's all that appears to have been reported on, until something concrete comes out, it seems like it's yet another false rumour spread by anti-government types looking to undermine and cause dissension.

As I have said previously, there is a very small number of Waratah sets running around WITHOUT the new logo. Assuming there was ANY kind of difficulty involved in ensuring the logo was free from copyright infringement, then application of the logo would have ceased.

So, we have evidence that the logo continues to be rolled out across the system, and the only evidence against it is...

...what, some mealroom gossip?

I'll happily concede I'm incorrect if something appears to give factual backing to these claims, but at the moment, it's no different to my spreading a rumour that I'm really a purple dinosaur who can see through time and defecate diamonds on command.
  XAM2175 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Glasgow
defecate diamonds on command
Raichase
Sooooo, when are you back in Melbourne?

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