On Track Models 82 Classes & Victorian 56' Louvre Vans Have Arrived

 
  Termite Chief Commissioner

Location: NSW
Hi All,

I picked up an OTM 82 class the other day and it is quite a nice looking model. Very happy with the detail of it and to get it in and out of it's box was very easy, the foam insert had been moulded so you could get in and grab the model out without damaging the model.

My only criticism on an otherwise fine model is the marker lights. Far too orange for my liking and they are wired similarly to early Powerline loco's with marker lights meaning depending on speed applied to the model, the brightness varies. Along with when running in forward, occassionally the red markers will flicker.

As I said, that is my only criticism on an otherwise great looking model. Looking forward to giving it a run with a string of wheat hoppers once I get a layout up and running.

Regards
Tim

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  Coastboy7 Locomotive Fireman

Yeah, I agree, My red ones light up like a Xmas tree. Should be able to tone them down a bit though.  But it's better than the one I had before, so won't bag Then at all, it's a great model
  Captain Underpants Train Controller

Hi All,

I picked up an OTM 82 class the other day and it is quite a nice looking model. Very happy with the detail of it and to get it in and out of it's box was very easy, the foam insert had been moulded so you could get in and grab the model out without damaging the model.

My only criticism on an otherwise fine model is the marker lights. Far too orange for my liking and they are wired similarly to early Powerline loco's with marker lights meaning depending on speed applied to the model, the brightness varies. Along with when running in forward, occassionally the red markers will flicker.

As I said, that is my only criticism on an otherwise great looking model. Looking forward to giving it a run with a string of wheat hoppers once I get a layout up and running.

Regards
Tim
Termite
Hi Tim,
Are you running it in DC? If so, wait until you put a decoder into it because that's when you will open a can of worms? The wiring in my opinion is wrong for DCC. Runs in wrong direction, markers come on using headlight function and the headlights are wired to AUX1 and AUX2. It can be easily fixed but not really a "DCC Ready" model.
  Termite Chief Commissioner

Location: NSW
Hi Tim,
Are you running it in DC? If so, wait until you put a decoder into it because that's when you will open a can of worms? The wiring in my opinion is wrong for DCC. Runs in wrong direction, markers come on using headlight function and the headlights are wired to AUX1 and AUX2. It can be easily fixed but not really a "DCC Ready" model.
Captain Underpants
Yes, still running DC at present. Have toyed with the idea of DCC, but it is a bit daunting at this stage.

Tim
  wolfpac Minister for Railways

Location: Over here...
Hi Tim,
Are you running it in DC? If so, wait until you put a decoder into it because that's when you will open a can of worms? The wiring in my opinion is wrong for DCC. Runs in wrong direction, markers come on using headlight function and the headlights are wired to AUX1 and AUX2. It can be easily fixed but not really a "DCC Ready" model.
Captain Underpants
If it runs the wrong way couldn't you either spin the decoder around 180deg or fix it up via CVs?

Wolfpac
  Captain Underpants Train Controller

If it runs the wrong way couldn't you either spin the decoder around 180deg or fix it up via CVs?

Wolfpac
wolfpac
"spin the decoder around 180deg" sounds simple but unlike the 8 pin, which correct me if I'm wrong can be turn around 180 deg,  the 21 pin can only go one way with pin 11 used as orientation for correct installation.
Yes it can be fixed using CVs but in the 82 the correct NMRA wire colour specs are used for the motor i.e. Grey and Orange, however they installed to the wrong pads on the board thus going to the wrong pin numbers on the decoder causing wrong direction. A simple fix would be to swap the motor wires around on the board taking probably less time than changing the CVs. Something as simple as this should have been sorted out during manufacturing. In DC it makes no difference as track power just passes through the different pins.
  wolfpac Minister for Railways

Location: Over here...
"spin the decoder around 180deg" sounds simple but unlike the 8 pin, which correct me if I'm wrong can be turn around 180 deg,  the 21 pin can only go one way with pin 11 used as orientation for correct installation.
Yes it can be fixed using CVs but in the 82 the correct NMRA wire colour specs are used for the motor i.e. Grey and Orange, however they installed to the wrong pads on the board thus going to the wrong pin numbers on the decoder causing wrong direction. A simple fix would be to swap the motor wires around on the board taking probably less time than changing the CVs. Something as simple as this should have been sorted out during manufacturing. In DC it makes no difference as track power just passes through the different pins.
Captain Underpants
Ah right, I didn't realise the 82 also had a 21-pin socket in it... Certainly don't spin the decoder, then! Laughing

Saying that, at least the wiring is correct, but possibly the factory don't know which end is which and which is the correct end to lead in a certain direction, being a dual cab loco? Out of interest, as I've got a rough idea how to tell which was is which on say a a V/Line A class, but how do you actually tell which is which?

Wolfpac
  Captain Underpants Train Controller

Ah right, I didn't realise the 82 also had a 21-pin socket in it... Certainly don't spin the decoder, then! Laughing

Saying that, at least the wiring is correct, but possibly the factory don't know which end is which and which is the correct end to lead in a certain direction, being a dual cab loco? Out of interest, as I've got a rough idea how to tell which was is which on say a a V/Line A class, but how do you actually tell which is which?

Wolfpac
wolfpac
Always a good question. On the 82 Class I would presume the 3 fans on the roof would be the No.2 End. On the 422 Class the 2 fans would be the No.2 end.
  drib72 Station Staff

Location: Under the radar
The battery box is always at the no.1 end. It is the box under the chassis in front of the fuel tank.
  wolfpac Minister for Railways

Location: Over here...
No worries, thanks for that. I always wondered what defined No. 1 and No. 2 ends!

Wolfpac

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