SSR jobs cuts due to work downturn

 
  Black Hoppers Chief Train Controller

Location: Banned
Whoa i never saw this one coming i thought all was chugging along like normal for SSR with their varied income streams and new contracts and locos coming on stream.

Drivers at SSR made redundant 20 drivers form the Southern Railway Service Sydney and Newcastle depots were made redundant this week, with the company citing a significant downturn in operations for the mass lay off. The drivers – all level 2.5 and 3 drivers are the depots – were told of the move at a meeting on Tuesday. A number of specific outside influences were blamed for the downturn, including RailCorp recently enlisting the services of another provider, coal export work dropping off and the irregular nature of ARTC infrastructure work. Unlike El Zorro, SSR guaranteed full entitlements to the employees and have advised redundant staff that they will receive first priority offers of any casual work that arises and will be first on the list for full time employment if and when the company is in a stronger position. As with all instances where members are facing redundancy, the division will be doing everything possible to help them find new employment quickly. - See more at http//locoexpress.com.au/drivers-at-ssr-made-redundant#sthash.vxApspx7.dpuf

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  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

Whoa i never saw this one coming i thought all was chugging along like normal for SSR with their varied income streams and new contracts and locos coming on stream.

Drivers at SSR made redundant 20 drivers form the Southern Railway Service Sydney and Newcastle depots were made redundant this week, with the company citing a significant downturn in operations for the mass lay off. The drivers – all level 2.5 and 3 drivers are the depots – were told of the move at a meeting on Tuesday. A number of specific outside influences were blamed for the downturn, including RailCorp recently enlisting the services of another provider, coal export work dropping off and the irregular nature of ARTC infrastructure work. Unlike El Zorro, SSR guaranteed full entitlements to the employees and have advised redundant staff that they will receive first priority offers of any casual work that arises and will be first on the list for full time employment if and when the company is in a stronger position. As with all instances where members are facing redundancy, the division will be doing everything possible to help them find new employment quickly. - See more at http//locoexpress.com.au/drivers-at-ssr-made-redundant#sthash.vxApspx7.dpuf
Black Hoppers
Could this signify the end of the line for some of the older locomotives they use?
  ath Junior Train Controller

I don't post often here, even though I visit regularly, and I don't work in the industry, but I really upsets me that the first response to a post about workers losing their jobs is a question about whether some older loco's will stop running.



Priorities people, people and their family's first, loco's second by a fair way.



Sorry if I upset anyone, but really..........
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
I don't post often here, even though I visit regularly, and I don't work in the industry, but I really upsets me that the first response to a post about workers losing their jobs is a question about whether some older loco's will stop running.



Priorities people, people and their family's first, loco's second by a fair way.



Sorry if I upset anyone, but really..........
ath
It's a railway forum and it was a valid question.

People getting far too precious around here.

The fact that the RTBU can't get the name of the company right should be of greater concern.
  Black Hoppers Chief Train Controller

Location: Banned
To all the hardworking SSR blokes i hope that you land on your feet quickly without any hassles finding further work.
  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
Could this signify the end of the line for some of the older locomotives they use?
nswtrains

Right.

I think some people need to engage their brains before posting in this thread. The people who are facing the prospect of possible unemployment may have families they need to support etc. The last thing they, and other members of the forum want to read is someone asking whether or not SSR's locomotives will get used.

Have some consideration for others.

Anymore of this sort of tripe, and the perpetrators will receive hefty warnings, and possible banning.

First, and final warning.
  ssaunders Train Controller

The Centennial Coal shut down, the slow down and SSR not being able to win further long term contracts would be the unfortunate reality of being in the rail business. Please correct me, but other than some ad hoc work trains SSR now only has one customer.

I'm sure the sales team is wearing out the shoe leather and lets hope they get something before further people have to go.

I do think the question on locos is a valid one considering the investment made by SSR in the BRMs and their lease business wagon rake which I notice parked up at Broadmeadow possibly also looking for a customer.

ss
  Typhon Assistant Commissioner

Location: I'm that freight train tearing through the sky in the clouds.
Could this signify the end of the line for some of the older locomotives they use?
nswtrains

I would suggest asking that question in the Locomotives thread.

Like most others, I'm more concerned about the affected workers and long term future of the business though. Noone wants to hear this sort of news and hopefully the guys can find something quickly.

On the flip side, it's good news for PN R&B to pick up the contract, a business that is also struggling along a bit in light of the recent downturn in grain and commodities. Make no mistake, we're in hard times and there is probably going to be more of this sort of news ahead before things get better.
  ath Junior Train Controller

Sir Harold Clapp, "The railway is ninety-five percent men and five percent iron."
  Stuart@Asciano Locomotive Fireman

Location: Melbourne
Hello Guys

I thought that I would let you know - the union has once again been excellent in assisting those affected by redundancies. With SSR's recent job cuts they have sent all of those affected employees details to PN Rail and other operators. I have personally spoken to every person on the list we received which will be circulated around the PN business with the end goal of employing them where we can across our business.

If there is anyone you know who has been effected by this unfortunate circumstance please let me know.
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Hello Guys

I thought that I would let you know - the union has once again been excellent in assisting those affected by redundancies. With SSR's recent job cuts they have sent all of those affected employees details to PN Rail and other operators. I have personally spoken to every person on the list we received which will be circulated around the PN business with the end goal of employing them where we can across our business.

If there is anyone you know who has been effected by this unfortunate circumstance please let me know.
Stuart@Asciano

You are changing my view of PN. Thank you for your continued updates.

Can we get more regular updates from you on the PN business?
  Spiritman Train Controller

Location: Camden, NSW
Hello Guys

I thought that I would let you know - the union has once again been excellent in assisting those affected by redundancies. With SSR's recent job cuts they have sent all of those affected employees details to PN Rail and other operators. I have personally spoken to every person on the list we received which will be circulated around the PN business with the end goal of employing them where we can across our business.

If there is anyone you know who has been effected by this unfortunate circumstance please let me know.
Stuart@Asciano
Grats Stuart to you and your PN team again for coming to the rescue of the redundant workers. Lets not forget reps of the RTBU for doing the initial legwork!
  MikeyJackson Locomotive Driver

Location: Footscray, Victoria, Australia
congratulations to PN and the unions. a great example of how unions and business can work together for the benefit of others.
  Stuart@Asciano Locomotive Fireman

Location: Melbourne
You are changing my view of PN. Thank you for your continued updates.

Can we get more regular updates from you on the PN business?
JimYarin
Hi JimYarin

Apologies for the lateness of my reply, I unfortunately have not had an opportunity to log back into the forums since last week.

I am glad that yourself and others are seeing some benefits from my updates on the business! We are committed to being as open and communicative as possible to the community we operate in.

We are working on getting more PN news out as much as we can, and you can be assured that anything I can talk about I will do so on the forums for you all to read and discuss

Stuart
  KRviator Moderator

Location: Up the front
Funny how those in HR say that, but those at the coalface get a bung for doing so...
  Stuart@Asciano Locomotive Fireman

Location: Melbourne
Hi The_Trolley

I am sincerely sorry to hear that you have had negative experiences in the past with PN, I will send you a Private Message and see if there is anything I can do to help.

Stuart
  Typhon Assistant Commissioner

Location: I'm that freight train tearing through the sky in the clouds.
In the words of Admiral Ackbar "it's a trap!" Razz
  KRviator Moderator

Location: Up the front
Hi The_Trolley

I am sincerely sorry to hear that you have had negative experiences in the past with PN, I will send you a Private Message and see if there is anything I can do to help.

Stuart
"Stuart@Asciano"
Unfortunately Stuart, The_Trolley is far from alone in his experiences, and after several years with PN I saw and experienced similar issues. Unfortunately when anyone asks what I recommend about PN nowadays it is this: "Get in, get your ticket, and get out".

There are many better employers out there.
  Stuart@Asciano Locomotive Fireman

Location: Melbourne
Hi KRviator,

It is disappointing to hear that so many have had negative experiences in the past with the business, and I am aware there are a number of them. Unfortunately having not been with the business for more than 12 months I cannot comment on the past, and nor can I comment on individual experiences - but what I can say is that I firmly believe the business recognises issues faced in the past and is doing a lot to rectify them going forward. I think a good example of that is the company allowing me to participate in the forums and speak with our colleagues in the industry like yourself.

I will also send you a PM and see if there is anything I may do to help.

Stuart
  Termite Chief Commissioner

Location: NSW
Funny how those in HR say that, but those at the coalface get a bung for doing so...
KRviator
Don't you think it's time to perhaps get over your PN gripe KR? You did something wrong, you copped a bung for it. You moved on, no one at PN is losing sleep over it, so let it go.  

Being a thread on the misfortunes of the gents from SSR, maybe your PN diatribe is better suited elsewhere within the forum or not at all...

Regards
Tim
  Spiritman Train Controller

Location: Camden, NSW
Unfortunately Stuart, The_Trolley is far from alone in his experiences, and after several years with PN I saw and experienced similar issues. Unfortunately when anyone asks what I recommend about PN nowadays it is this: "Get in, get your ticket, and get out".

There are many better employers out there.
KRviator
Are these experiences widespread throughout the organisation or limited to certain areas?  I'm looking at PN for employment as a driver and wasn't planning on getting out as soon as I got qualified...
  Typhon Assistant Commissioner

Location: I'm that freight train tearing through the sky in the clouds.
Are these experiences widespread throughout the organisation or limited to certain areas?  I'm looking at PN for employment as a driver and wasn't planning on getting out as soon as I got qualified...
Spiritman

As a PN driver I'm perfectly happy with the company and my experiences so far and I see no immediate reason to move. However, I work for Intermodal, and we're not so bad. I could not say what coal or bulk are like to work for. I dont believe we're any better or worse than the competition either.

I'm not going to elaborate on a public forum like this, but I think as long as you treat people with respect and dont act like an arrogant, self centered princess then things will generally go pretty smoothly Razz.

Getting a bit away from the topic now though.

EDIT Just reading back on this and to clarify, I'm not referring to either The Trolley or KRviator (or anyone else on this board), I dont know them and I'm unfamiliar with their situations.
  Fireman Dave Chief Commissioner

Location: Shh, I'm hiding
My experience is that it doesn't matter where you are. The grass always looks greener on the other side of the fence. It rarely is.
  beyerpeacock Assistant Commissioner

Location: Gorton Foundry
A good saying I heard recently Dave is that the grass always looks greener, but It's all still fed by smeg.
  craigd Deputy Commissioner

Location: A Thinktank near you
The owners of SSR are pretty smart cookies and unless they know for sure that they can guarantee continuance of business on the back of the Centennial workings (which is reported to be worth about $30 mil to them), they'd be looking at other opportunities like any other rail operator would in a similar situation.

It will be interesting to see then what happens with the CEY class GE locos that UGL built for Centennial. They might be leased out, or sold, or something else. They're probably owned, like the wagons, by Comm bank, so at the end of the day, it's the bank's call what happens if push comes to shove re the equipment.

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