(1) Now the NMRA and AMRA standards are different am I right on this point. Yes or no.
(2) If the answer is yes to the above and most manufactures claim that their rollingstock is to NMRA standards and this includes wheels etc. Then how in the heck so far has AMRA come into it. Please explain in simple terms thanks.
(3) I use a NMRA metal gauge to reset any defect in track or wheels so how in the heck again am I using AMRA standards here. Please explain simply here again.
(4) You have been claiming in the past that AMRA standards are better than the NMRA standards and now you change your tune somewhat. I think all you have done now is confuse everyone again
(5) you claimed once that using modern Australian models on Peco track and points would result in derailments at the points, but in the post above you have contradicted yourself.
I have no idea at all about AMRA standards and use the NMRA standards almost as gospel but as long as it all works for me and others I cannot see the point in you flogging a dead horse almost to get a point across that is virtually null and void. Ok so I am fluking a measurement or two here which is possible but how come a lot of others and I mean a lot are fluking them as well we should all have a different measurement. I do not share my track and wheel setting measurement with anyone so the likely hood of a Modeller in Perth say and Adelaide and Brisbane all coming up with exactly the same measurement for something, without communicating to each other is a real long shot isn't it. What about all the others that do it though, we cannot all have mental telepathy or something and saying it is a fluke is a real stretch of the imagination a lot.
I tend to agree a lot with FirstStopCentral's post you seem to have a secret agenda or something.
1. It's obvious the AMRA and NMRA standards are different.
2. The only Peco turnouts that complies with the NMRA standard is Peco code 83. No Australian manufacturer supplying 'finescale' wheels complies with NMRA standards and you cannot change this with your NMRA gauge. All Peco and all 'fines scale' Australian RTR wheels on the market today comply with AMRA standards, excepting duds within the production runs.
3. In an earlier post you said you used new Peco code 100 turnouts without modification, which is it? Do you modify them to the NMRA standard? if you do not modify your code 100 turnouts you are complying with AMRA standards.
4. Both standards work, but as I and others have found around the world, you can do better than the NMRA standard, in a number of areas. Improvements include a better flange profile, greater compliance with RTR track work, closer to scale wheel and track clearances and easier tolerances for building complex track work to name a few.
5. I haven given examples of a number of Australian RTR models with NMRA compliant wheels that derailed on Peco track. These models came out a number of years ago, and those manufacturers have corrected their wheel check gauge problem on newer models. There current models now comply with AMRA standards.
There is nothing secret about my agenda. If you want derailment free running on Peco track use the appropriate standards which are the AMRA standards. Simple.
First stop centrals post is nothing more than a personal attack. What is his secret agenda? No facts about standards. No technical arguments, or examples of experience to back his stupid argument.Again, if are using unmodified Peco code100 or code 75 turnouts you are not using NMRA standard trackwork (check gauge difference). If you have RTR fine scale wheels you are not using NMRA standard wheels (wheel width is narrower).
2 facts you are ignoring post after post. It's clear you no very little about the any standard.