A short list of questions

 
  2565T Beginner

Hi.

I am new to this forum, so please don't grill me with your criticism.
However, I am open to corrections.

I have some questions regarding the Sydney Trains network.

1. How does one figure out which type of train, and which set is operating particular services?
I am on a quest to travel on as many S and K Sets as I can, confined to the Northern Line.
I have read forum posts where people are very knowledgable about the "run number", set type and particular set in question.
In particular, I am yet to, and am trying to get a trip on S111. I have a whole evening tomorrow (Friday 13th September) to do so.
I have figured out the way to find out when S Sets are running, by using TripView's service information, and picking out the non air conditioned services.

2. Late on Friday and Saturday nights, why does a C set stop on Platform 3 at Rhodes and turn back around towards Strathfield?

3. Why do C Sets operate occasional Northern Line and North Shore/Western Line services?

4. Do L and R sets still operate on the network? (L's on Carlingford)

5. Do V sets ever run on the South Coast line?

6. A few years ago, train drivers used to sound the horn when leaving stations.
Recently, it occurred to me that the drivers no longer do that. Why?

Thankyou.

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  Aurora8 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Hi.

I am new to this forum, so please don't grill me with your criticism.
However, I am open to corrections.

I have some questions regarding the Sydney Trains network.
"2565T"


Welcome. Fire away.

1. How does one figure out which type of train, and which set is operating particular services?

I am on a quest to travel on as many S and K Sets as I can, confined to the Northern Line.
I have read forum posts where people are very knowledgable about the "run number", set type and particular set in question.
In particular, I am yet to, and am trying to get a trip on S111. I have a whole evening tomorrow (Friday 13th September) to do so.
I have figured out the way to find out when S Sets are running, by using TripView's service information, and picking out the non air conditioned services.
"2565T"


The internal operating timetable, called the Standard Working Timetable, which lists all scheduled services operating across the network, includes scheduled set types and run numbers. Finding specific set numbers are much trickier. Although set types are scheduled, this isn't always the case.

2. Late on Friday and Saturday nights, why does a C set stop on Platform 3 at Rhodes and turn back around towards Strathfield?
"2565T"

If it's the train I think it is, it's scheduled as an 8S and does a points clean at Nth Strathfield.

3. Why do C Sets operate occasional Northern Line and North Shore/Western Line services?
"2565T"

They generally don't. I think the only reason they would would be for operational requirements in service delivery.

4. Do L and R sets still operate on the network? (L's on Carlingford)
"2565T"

Yes and no. The carriages are still in service (excluding those scrapped/awaiting scrapping), howver they have all been re-marshalled into 4-car S Sets. Thus they are integrated with the other S Set trains. A 4-car S Set now usually operates on the Carlingford Line (though on occasional days you'll get a 4C).

5. Do V sets ever run on the South Coast line?
"2565T"

They don't these days. Any one-off special events withstanding. All H Sets and T Sets for the South Coast now.

6. A few years ago, train drivers used to sound the horn when leaving stations.

Recently, it occurred to me that the drivers no longer do that. Why?
"2565T"

To reduce noise pollution, the decision was made to no longer have it as a requirement when departing a station. Now it is up to the driver's discretion when to use it.

Thankyou.
"2565T"

No worries. Hope this helps.
  2565T Beginner

I can't quite figure out how to quote and reply yet, so I'll just ask,

where might I find the "Standard Working Timetable"?
Thanks so much for your response!!
  oren Junior Train Controller

Location: OSCAR set H1
The Standard Working Timetable or SWTT is a Railcorp/Sydney Trains/NSW Trains/NSW Trainlink employee document so I don't think it is available publically.
  Watson374 Chief Commissioner

Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
The Standard Working Timetable or SWTT is a Railcorp/Sydney Trains/NSW Trains/NSW Trainlink employee document so I don't think it is available publically.
"oren"
They are, I believe, also marked "for internal use only" (or wording to that effect).
  Aurora8 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney
As I wrote, it's an internal document. It's not available for general consumption.
  Kamz Assistant Commissioner

There's that draft copy of the new SWTT available if you're interested.

http://images.smh.com.au/file/2013/05/16/4277920/timetable.pdf
  maestro Junior Train Controller

They generally don't. I think the only reason they would would be for operational requirements in service delivery.
Aurora8

And what on earth does "operational requirements in service delivery" mean?