The saga of the Trainorama 44 class split wheel-sets

 
  Roachie Chief Commissioner

Location: Kadina SA (formerly NSW)



So are we any closer to a solution to the problem yet??

"drib72"


No....I haven't heard anything from NWSL yet and Trainorama have been VERY quiet about if/when they will be making the new bogies available.

In the meantime, I have added thin slivers of styrene to the inside face of the bogies on one of my 44s, with a view to limiting the lateral play in the wheel sets, especially the fore and aft ones on each bogie; the centre axle not being as important. The jury is still out as to whether it is a worthwhile exercise, as I haven't conducted any "clinical trials" yet.

Roachie

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  drib72 Station Staff

Location: Under the radar
Thanks for the update Roachie......looks like I have 4 in need of a solution. Hopefully the 49 class won't develop the same problem as the 44's
  ahm Beginner

Judging by the lack of recent activity with this thread, it appears definition of the true defect seems elusive. Definition of an effective rectification of said defect seems equally challenging. Bogie replacement seems to be the panacea.

Despite Trainorama's best efforts, perhaps the lack of news re a factory fix is indicative of a lack of factory interest. Sadly we may have years to wait. A free or low cost rectification within a reasonable time is but a dream.

'Fitness for purpose' and 'merchantable quality' come to mind. Australian consumer law does not place a 'warranty' time limit on goods so regardless of when purchased, a return for refund of defective goods to a retailer (or manufacturer) is always possible within a 'reasonable time or use'. Even a receipt isn't necessary especially if  a single supplier. One or a thousand faulty units makes no difference to the fitness or merchantable test.

With 7 of 9 locos defective, I think I am entitled to describe the internals as being 'so very bad'. It is a fair bet that most if not all of the DE's have or will have the fault.

If an effective fix could be designed and proven locally (within Aus.), I for one would be prepared to contribute toward a sponsorship ... but with a depleted manufacturing sector and lack of fine scale engineering capability, it may be futile. I wonder if a local manufacturer might find it a viable project to build replacement bogies if there was sufficient pre-commitment by holders of faulty units. Has anyone including Trainorama been down this path?
  Roachie Chief Commissioner

Location: Kadina SA (formerly NSW)
Judging by the lack of recent activity with this thread, it appears definition of the true defect seems elusive. Definition of an effective rectification of said defect seems equally challenging. Bogie replacement seems to be the panacea.

Despite Trainorama's best efforts, perhaps the lack of news re a factory fix is indicative of a lack of factory interest. Sadly we may have years to wait. A free or low cost rectification within a reasonable time is but a dream.

'Fitness for purpose' and 'merchantable quality' come to mind. Australian consumer law does not place a 'warranty' time limit on goods so regardless of when purchased, a return for refund of defective goods to a retailer (or manufacturer) is always possible within a 'reasonable time or use'. Even a receipt isn't necessary especially if  a single supplier. One or a thousand faulty units makes no difference to the fitness or merchantable test.

With 7 of 9 locos defective, I think I am entitled to describe the internals as being 'so very bad'. It is a fair bet that most if not all of the DE's have or will have the fault.

If an effective fix could be designed and proven locally (within Aus.), I for one would be prepared to contribute toward a sponsorship ... but with a depleted manufacturing sector and lack of fine scale engineering capability, it may be futile. I wonder if a local manufacturer might find it a viable project to build replacement bogies if there was sufficient pre-commitment by holders of faulty units. Has anyone including Trainorama been down this path?
ahm
It intrigues me that "somebody" can't make a replacement muff incorporating a wider-toothed gear cog. It is a simple plastic (?) part that has definite dimensions/specifications, but I'm obviously missing something in my thought processes.

The rest of the bogie is quite okay, so I don't understand why they keep saying they will get the manufacturer to make a whole pile of new bogies.

The only issue I have with the bogie itself is that I found it impossible to dismantle without damaging it....but other blokes (far more nibble-of-finger than I am obviously) seem to reckon that it can be achieved with a few flat toothpicks and holding one's tongue at a certain angle out of the corner of one's gob, whilst swinging a small bladed screwdriver!! hahaha

Roachie
  Captain Underpants Train Controller

No....I haven't heard anything from NWSL yet and Trainorama have been VERY quiet about if/when they will be making the new bogies available.
In the meantime, I have added thin slivers of styrene to the inside face of the bogies on one of my 44s, with a view to limiting the lateral play in the wheel sets, especially the fore and aft ones on each bogie; the centre axle not being as important. The jury is still out as to whether it is a worthwhile exercise, as I haven't conducted any "clinical trials" yet.
Roachie
Roachie

Hi Roachie,
It's been a couple of months since your last update. Any progress?

Cheers
Captain
  Roachie Chief Commissioner

Location: Kadina SA (formerly NSW)
No mate...nothing heard yet from NWSL.

I have just ordered a ball-bearing gearbox and uni-joint set from them too, so it might be a good opportunity to chase Dave up again.

Roachie
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
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