Thanks for your help. Yeah I thought they may have had a softer type chuff (refers to your first post). The SMR 10 class is a great idea. I wonder if the whistles are similar? Like I was saying above I have a sound project loaded to the decoder now but it seems to have a little wheezy steam sound on the end of each chuff. Still looking for a cleaner chuff sound on the ESU website. Realistically I could use what I have now but hopefully I can fine tune it a little.
Don't worry too much about the wheeze as surprisingly was also a bit common on the saturated 50's, but it depends on how much, I guess I now understand your reference to the Asthmatic sound.
There are a couple of thoughts depending on how far into your sound development & how far you have gone as far as fitting sound to your loco's & which direction you want to take. If you are definitely going to go the Loksound path, & know how to use their programmer then you may well stay that course, but I personally resent the cost of the programmer. In saying that I was stupid enough to invest in a QSI programmer with the hope of their promises for user downloadable sounds from the Revo onwards. Afraid I want to live & enjoy the hobby in preference to waiting on their promises as such I have gone totally cold on QSI, & I now no longer buy loco's with sound, nor fitting anymore with Tsunami's.
Ok, while not 100% sure about the 10class, I understand they are saturated engines, also have the same whistle as the general freighters or what was deemed the standard Country whistle also fitted to P's, 30T, & other engines that worked in the rural areas. Getting to the 35cl it was similar but deemed a 5 chime, but more like the country type than the 5chime on the pig. Most of those engines can use the Tsunami as a sort of reasonable choice. The 10cl also has the same type of single phase air pump with smoke box exhaust, likewise Ramsbottom safety valves, & likely the same type of injectors as the 50 & others, which pretty well would cover the more needed unique NSW steam sounds for those loco's. The question is though, how would you go about recording the sounds of one? of course the one sound least likely to get correct with the 10cl is the exhaust owing to the load aspect.
If you wait, there is a fair chance that one of the saturated 30T's will be returned to service, with ARHS Canberra working on their one, & not sure about what stage the LVR one is at, although they were looking at doing it up.
For me though, I have heard & watched video of some loco's fitted with the TCS WOW sound decoders, also with using different types of speakers, including high bass, standard & cell phone speakers, the later are small & produce excellent sound. So far, its like fitting a Tsunami though, as its only fitted with what is best described as generic (for Australian steamers) sounds, although like the Tsunami there are enough there that are sort of close enough.
The best news though is that TCS are committed to a form whereby the WOW decoder will be able to have user sound files uploaded into the decoders, the ability to do that will be part of a firmware update to the decoder in further development that is going on. The method that is being talked about, is that the modeller will submit the sounds they want to TCS, who will then convert the sounds into the WOW format, the user will then pay a fee, similar to that charged by those downloading music etc to their thumbs machines.
The wow is now being distributed so TCS is going into the next stage of development of their decoders, & while not sure how far down the track the user files & firmware are, I do not think its nearer the bottom of the list than towards the front. While a fee is charged, I understand that it may not be huge & you do not need a big black box to do the downloads with either.
For me, I have waited long enough now for decent & more correct NSW sounds, so another couple of years is of no real concern to me, in fact when I have models running, I get just as much enjoyment in the quiet non sound models than I do with the sound ones. Thus, I am saving the $100.00 on OEM, or Generic & locked in sounds of the Tsunami, & will wait for the WOW, & fit them to my models, which hopefully will have NSW sounds added to them at a later time, either mine or those from TCS as they have indicated that they would like to come here to do recordings.
A few things to think about in regard to directions, now & future.