Broken/split shifts

 
  chapzboy Station Master

I have done a search on this topic but can't find anything related. Apologies if I have missed something.

I've heard that some years ago, the Victorian Railways (specifically Melbourne metropolitan) used to have split (broken) shifts, but abolished them for, I believe, fatigue reasons.

Can anyone provide more information about what year they were abolished, what was the lead up to the change, and how were the peaks catered for with the removal of the broken shifts? Was standby time used to make up the time in other "straight" shifts that only worked one of the peaks into a full 8-hour shift? Any information would be much appreciated. Currently I work in an area of public transport that still has these types of shifts.

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  northbritish Chief Train Controller

I have done a search on this topic but can't find anything related. Apologies if I have missed something.

I've heard that some years ago, the Victorian Railways (specifically Melbourne metropolitan) used to have split (broken) shifts, but abolished them for, I believe, fatigue reasons.

Can anyone provide more information about what year they were abolished, what was the lead up to the change, and how were the peaks catered for with the removal of the broken shifts? Was standby time used to make up the time in other "straight" shifts that only worked one of the peaks into a full 8-hour shift? Any information would be much appreciated. Currently I work in an area of public transport that still has these types of shifts.
chapzboy
As far as I know the Victorian Railways never had split shifts, but the Tramways in Melbourne had lots of split shifts.
  northbritish Chief Train Controller

I have done a search on this topic but can't find anything related. Apologies if I have missed something.

I've heard that some years ago, the Victorian Railways (specifically Melbourne metropolitan) used to have split (broken) shifts, but abolished them for, I believe, fatigue reasons.

Can anyone provide more information about what year they were abolished, what was the lead up to the change, and how were the peaks catered for with the removal of the broken shifts? Was standby time used to make up the time in other "straight" shifts that only worked one of the peaks into a full 8-hour shift? Any information would be much appreciated. Currently I work in an area of public transport that still has these types of shifts.
As far as I know the Victorian Railways never had split shifts, but the Tramways in Melbourne had lots of split shifts.
  ab123 Chief Train Controller

Can't speak for suburban, but there was atleast one split shift going until late last year on the stations.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
As far as I know the Victorian Railways never had split shifts, but the Tramways in Melbourne had lots of split shifts.
northbritish
Early 1970's at Newport and North Williamstown and Williamstown Beach stations, split shifts for Station Assistants were routine, often ceasing at 10 am and recommencing at 2 pm.

It paid (pun intended)to live very close to the station where you worked otherwise it was total dead time as you hung around the station whilst not being paid.

Mike.
  chapzboy Station Master

I'd heard that the Driver roster had split shifts also. Anyone?
  GvhftrKijl Locomotive Driver

Location: ERD
I'd heard that the Driver roster has split shifts also. Anyone?
"chapzboy"


Bollocks.

Complete and utter Bollocks.
  damooops Junior Train Controller

Location: The Revenue Raising State
G'day all.
The signalmen in Seymour panel used to work a split shift on a Sunday. From memory it was 09:10- 11:30 then 16:30- finish or clearance of 8339.
Cheers all.
  Madjikthise Assistant Commissioner

Another "I heard..." post without anything to back it up.
  pawanoro Deputy Commissioner

Except that there were split shifts, exhibit A, the Ashburton No. 5 shift from the 1948 roster book, downloadable from victorianrailways.net

  chapzboy Station Master

In that case, can someone please advise how the extra services in the AM and PM peaks are catered for, from a rostering (of Drivers) perspective?

Are there a certain number of shifts that run only in the AM or PM peak, with the remaining portion being allocated standby time or only a very short run?
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

Split shifts were very common in VR / Vicrail days for both station staff and signalmen especially on country lines .

Geelong "A"  Box used to be a split shift on Sundays.  Geelong ASM's were a split shift on Sundays, and even worked Geelong "B" Box on Sundays in the morning and mid afternoons to do the loco runarounds.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
At the risk of sounding as dense as a London fog, could somebody please explain exactly what a Split Shift entails?
  Madjikthise Assistant Commissioner

At the risk of sounding as dense as a London fog, could somebody please explain exactly what a Split Shift entails?
Valvegear

Any shift where your 8 hours of work are not consecutive. For example 7am to 11am, then 4pm to 8pm. Or any other combination agreed to. I'd guess it would be hated by 99.728% of employees. Really handy for those that don't live close to work.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Thanks Madjikthise - understood perfectly.

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