AN class lighting arrangements - ditch and strobes?

 
  wagrttn Locomotive Driver

Hello

Can someone please confirm for me how the lower four front lights on an AN class operate? I assume that two are 'ditch' lights (inner two?) and apparently the other (outer?) two are strobes?

Do the ditch lights flash when the horn is sounded? What is the function of the strobes? Can anyone point me towards a video, perhaps?

Thanks very much if you can help.

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  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Hello

Can someone please confirm for me how the lower four front lights on an AN class operate? I assume that two are 'ditch' lights (inner two?) and apparently the other (outer?) two are strobes?

Do the ditch lights flash when the horn is sounded? What is the function of the strobes? Can anyone point me towards a video, perhaps?

Thanks very much if you can help.
wagrttn
Both of mine have gone back for repair, I was quite disappointed with these models. From what I remember and I only had a brief look making the ditch lights flash is going to take quite some surgery. I purchased a pair of Loksound decoders for them and had a pair of TCS T6 decoders pre prepared for the lighting tests, I lifted the body, saw the cheap method of doing the lighting and became so disappointed in the running qualities (probably due to interior design) that they got sent back without further investigation.

When I get them back, I shall re investigate getting the lighting up to scratch, but will take some time. Hopefully I will remember to take photos and do a 'How to'.
  Captain Underpants Train Controller

Both of mine have gone back for repair, I was quite disappointed with these models. From what I remember and I only had a brief look making the ditch lights flash is going to take quite some surgery. I purchased a pair of Loksound decoders for them and had a pair of TCS T6 decoders pre prepared for the lighting tests, I lifted the body, saw the cheap method of doing the lighting and became so disappointed in the running qualities (probably due to interior design) that they got sent back without further investigation.

When I get them back, I shall re investigate getting the lighting up to scratch, but will take some time. Hopefully I will remember to take photos and do a 'How to'.
Aaron
Aaron,

I have done a lighting mod using the ESU Loksound decoder. I now have it operating as follows:

F0 = Directional front/rear headlights with rear white makers.
F9 = Front White Markers
F10 = Front Ditch Lights
F11 = Rear Red Markers.
F12 = Front Red Markers




The rear white markers were coming on with the rear headlight which I left as there are only six functions and had to decide which was the best way to use them.

Cheers
Captain
  wagrttn Locomotive Driver

Both of mine have gone back for repair, I was quite disappointed with these models. From what I remember and I only had a brief look making the ditch lights flash is going to take quite some surgery. I purchased a pair of Loksound decoders for them and had a pair of TCS T6 decoders pre prepared for the lighting tests, I lifted the body, saw the cheap method of doing the lighting and became so disappointed in the running qualities (probably due to interior design) that they got sent back without further investigation.

When I get them back, I shall re investigate getting the lighting up to scratch, but will take some time. Hopefully I will remember to take photos and do a 'How to'.
Aaron

Oh, that's disappointing. I have yet to run mine but was quite looking forward to it. My fingers are crossed.

I don’t mind doing a bit of surgery to make the lighting function more realistically but I’m not getting any younger and my eyesight is not getting any sharper so it would be very welcome if that sort of thing was taken care of at the factory by young eyes and nimble fingers!

So the ditch lights flash upon sounding the horn? Are you able to shed any light on what I believe are/were the strobes? Are they still used?

I'm looking forward to a write-up by yourself and/or the Capt.

Thanks.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
There is only one LED for the ditches, so you have three choices, leave them static on/off, flash them on/off in tandem or surgery to add an extra LED to flash them alternately. Sadly, with the addition of two extra LEDs (one each end) this could have been provided for in the initial design, literally less than 1 USD per loco...
  wagrttn Locomotive Driver

There is only one LED for the ditches, so you have three choices, leave them static on/off, flash them on/off in tandem or surgery to add an extra LED to flash them alternately. Sadly, with the addition of two extra LEDs (one each end) this could have been provided for in the initial design, literally less than 1 USD per loco...
Aaron

I quite understand. I suspect there is now a need for the manufacturer to find ways to keep the product within a certain price range but, on the face of it, the extra cost to be incurred would seem to be minimal.

I appreciate your time and the information provided on the Auscision model is welcome as I have yet to inspect mine however I am beginning to think that my initial question may have been a little ambiguous. I was actually fishing for information on the behaviour of the lights on the real AN locomotive class so that I could attempt to replicate it. Smile
  FirstStopCentral Chief Train Controller

Both of mine have gone back for repair, I was quite disappointed with these models. From what I remember and I only had a brief look making the ditch lights flash is going to take quite some surgery. I purchased a pair of Loksound decoders for them and had a pair of TCS T6 decoders pre prepared for the lighting tests, I lifted the body, saw the cheap method of doing the lighting and became so disappointed in the running qualities (probably due to interior design) that they got sent back without further investigation.

When I get them back, I shall re investigate getting the lighting up to scratch, but will take some time. Hopefully I will remember to take photos and do a 'How to'.
Aaron

Aaron,

What were the running issues you were having, strange to get two duds...?

Paul
  MaskedRailfan Train Controller

I am really happy with the running of my AN class. Gave it a really good run straight out of the box & it ran faultlessly & is easily the quietest model I own (running on DC). Kudos to Auscision, loco looks great!!

If memory serves me correctly, the strobes came on when the main horns were sounded. Would be quite difficult to reproduce faithfully in model form as they were (maybe still are) a xenon strobe lamp.

In AN times was rare to see white rear markers on as they were usually coupled up to another loco. A couple of units got the 'driver only' modification to allow all markers to be switched on (couldn't say which ones).
  MaskedRailfan Train Controller

I am really happy with the running of my AN class. Gave it a really good run straight out of the box & it ran faultlessly & is easily the quietest model I own (running on DC). Kudos to Auscision, loco looks great!!

If memory serves me correctly, the strobes came on when the main horns were sounded. Would be quite difficult to reproduce faithfully in model form as they were (maybe still are) a xenon strobe lamp.

In AN times was rare to see white rear markers on as they were usually coupled up to another loco. A couple of units got the 'driver only' modification to allow all markers to be switched on (couldn't say which ones).
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
I am really happy with the running of my AN class. Gave it a really good run straight out of the box & it ran faultlessly & is easily the quietest model I own (running on DC). Kudos to Auscision, loco looks great!!

If memory serves me correctly, the strobes came on when the main horns were sounded. Would be quite difficult to reproduce faithfully in model form as they were (maybe still are) a xenon strobe lamp.

In AN times was rare to see white rear markers on as they were usually coupled up to another loco. A couple of units got the 'driver only' modification to allow all markers to be switched on (couldn't say which ones).
MaskedRailfan
Both of mine have excessive longitudinal play in the rear bogies, when running forward both are unaffected, but when run in reverse the rear bogie is able to move in toward the fuel tank and the resulting vibration is well beyond acceptable. On top of this one of the locos had B end lighting that was entirely DOA, not one LED functions in either direction, not acceptable either.

Replicating the strobing lights is relatively simple if you have the right decoder and two LEDs either isolated or in common anode. From there it's just a blue wire, green wire and purple wire, a CV and function re-map, easy.

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