Wayville Railway Station

 
  Gayspie Deputy Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, SA
The actual foundations of the bridge are well beneath what is visible in the image.
Remeber the Keswick signal cabin......sure do......I worked in it for many months......and fed the local cats that lived under the bridge. Shocked
Top Cat
were there really cats living under that bridge; did they mind the steam trains and diesel trains and red hens?

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  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
David

I'm not going to say a thing!

Ian Wink
steam4ian
I see what you did there
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

To clear up Top Cat's comment which has reappeared courtesy of Heath.

The Keswick bridge is supported on concrete piles driven down to probably Hindmarsh Clay. I used to pass the bridge construction on my way to school.

As for the cats I am not sure what is meant. Almost inevitably there would have been feral felines there. I recall there was a plate on the landing of stairs to the cabin.

Could also have been a few people dossing out under the bridge. Homeless persons used to camp under the Bakewell Bridge; my daughter used to raid our pantry and spend her own pocket money to leave them food parcels.
  Top Cat Assistant Commissioner

Location: Under Hilton Bridge
....cats lived under the bridge at Keswick...can't remember their names, but well looked after. One particular signalman fed them well.....not me!  Don't like cats!  8)
  Gayspie Deputy Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, SA
i love cats, they are so cute and soft and furry. NOW BACK ON TOPIC OF THE WAYVILLE RAILWAY STATION!!! Smile
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

i love cats, they are so cute and soft and furry. i used to have one but it died Crying or Very sad i loved her  and its name was rattle. she lived to 12 1/2 and my uncle has a male cat named patch, 8 and he also owns lola she is 1 month old and very playful. my other uncle owns a cat named jessie and she is about 8. cats are lovely and if u see one do feed it as i dont like dead cats. NOW BACK ON TOPIC OF THE WAYVILLE RAILWAY STATION!!! Smile
Heath Loxton
Cats make great violins. Laughing

Deliberately went down Leader St this afternoon to see if the track layout was indicated; still only at the base stage.
  Gayspie Deputy Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, SA
hey diddle diddle the cat and the fiddle the governments building a new station at wayville.
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

hey diddle diddle the cat and the fiddle the governments building a new station at wayville.
Heath Loxton
Laughing
  nscaler69 Deputy Commissioner

Location: There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots.
http://www.news.com.au/national/south-australia/more-pain-for-commuters-as-wayville-station-opening-delayed-until-2014/story-fnii5yv4-1226763370627
More pain for commuters as Wayville Station opening delayed until 2014.

Train commuters will have to wait until early next year for the Wayville Station to open, a Transport Department document shows.

The new station will replace Keswick and was due to be completed in November but it is now scheduled to open in February.

It is the latest hiccup in a string of train infrastructure delays, the most recent being the 60-day delay in re-opening the Noarlunga line .

Opposition transport spokeswoman Vickie Chapman said the Wayville issue was further bad news for commuters.

"(Transport) Minister (Tom) Koutsantonis needs to explain what people who live or work in the Wayville area will do between services resuming and the Showground Station opening," Ms Chapman said.

"Public transport users have suffered through eleven months of train closures under a government which cannot be trusted to deliver major projects on time and on budget."

Mr Koutsantonis said the upgraded rail network would be "first class" and that residents had been kept in the loop.

"While the Liberals go to bed at night crossing their fingers and hoping for the worst for this state, this Government is going about the business of building a first-class public transport network," he said.

"We are looking forward to the opening of Wayville station, one of many new and upgraded stations being built across the rail network.

"During the Royal Show, more than 4000 newsletters were distributed in showbags containing the updated information about the progress on the new station.

"This $16.5m project will replace temporary platforms for the Show shuttle and allow people on the Noarlunga and Belair lines to travel directly to the Adelaide Showgrounds."

At a parliamentary committee in March, Transport Department's Luigi Rossi said: "The full benefits of the station will not be realised until the station is complete, and that won't be until November."
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Tens New tonight also mentioned the reason for the delay was the complex construction/assembly of the station walkway.
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
Well if they got rid of the arty farty walkway and just put in a standard one there would not have as much problems. Why they need to turn a station into a work of art is beyond me, most commuters would not even notice it after a while. Best to leave art works to places like Festival Centre grounds etc.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Well if they got rid of the arty farty walkway and just put in a standard one there would not have as much problems. Why they need to turn a station into a work of art is beyond me, most commuters would not even notice it after a while. Best to leave art works to places like Festival Centre grounds etc.
"David Peters"


But DP, if they got rid of the arty-farty walkway how could the designers pat each other on the back as they admire it when they DRIVE down Anzac Highway?
  yoyoman Junior Train Controller

Location: Adelaide, SA
I'm waiting to see how long it takes for a report of a member of the public having an 'accident' on the walkway because they are disorientated/dizzy/confused/whatever..................and if that does happen then what? LaughingLaughingLaughing
  SAR520SMBH Train Controller

Slightly off topic, I think the company doing all the steel work installation at the Showground station is the same company that did the steel diagrid facade installation at the SAHMRI building and the diagrid facade is a bit arty farty too. SAHMRI was due to be completed in February 2012.......originally.
Admittedly the facade isn't the only thing to blame for the delay in completion but it is a big part.
  SAR526 Chief Train Controller

Location: Adelaide, South Australia.
I am concerned about the excessive height of the roof on the western side. It seems to guarantee the flooding of the platform by sunlight on hot afternoons and very little protection from driving wind and rain at other times.

Too many projects seem to be designed by 'architects' who draw pretty pictures without considering the practical usage and comfort of their constructions. Years ago I learnt that it was foolish to lay down concrete paths in a new project until the tracks on the ground worn by its users had become apparent. What is essential is that design should start from the expected use of the building and work outwards. As an example, the Sydney Opera House is spectacular, but its internal spaces are at best a compromise for symphonic concerts and theatrical performances alike.

I hope that weather protection will be adequate at Showgrounds, Goodwood now that all wind barriers and seating have been (I hope temporarily) removed, and Oaklands stations to name three. Maybe we should chain all would-be archItects to a post under one of their 'shelters' on a hot or cold, wet and windy day before they are allowed to graduate.

On any passenger shelter, the roof should come as nearly as possible to the roofs of the stopped vehicles, and the platform to their floors. Any higher allows flooding by sun or rain over the seat and right to the back wall – a common complaint in many on which I have had to wait.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
The western side has a second roof lower down I think you will find. The top one is only the decorative (read superfluous, non value but expense adding) one piece bit.

The problem with concrete paths is not their location, it's the laziness and ignorance of our society that thinks it's okay to bushbash through the garden. 'This is why we can't have nice things!'
  SAR526 Chief Train Controller

Location: Adelaide, South Australia.
The western side has a second roof lower down I think you will find. The top one is only the decorative (read superfluous, non value but expense adding) one piece bit.

I am aware of the continuous beam at a lower level. However it doesn't seem to have any visible accessory beams which would support roof cladding. If it is intended as a roof under the existing one, then I agree with you that the upper one is completely superfluous and a waste of money. Buildings can be strictly utilitarian and still be visually attractive.

Possibly the intention of the high sloping roof and skewed walkway frame is to draw attention to the presence of the station from Anzac Highway, which wouldn't occur if a lower structure had been built. If so, I would have still preferred a simpler solution.

The problem with concrete paths is not their location, it's the laziness and ignorance of our society that thinks it's okay to bushbash through the garden. 'This is why we can't have nice things!'

You are right about the laziness of very many people and their destruction of gardens in taking short cuts. It is therefore wise to anticipate this and design accordingly, however regrettable that may be.  
Aaron
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
You've seen it more closely than I have lately, so I'll go with your impression. I saw those extra beams going in and thought 'Wow, if you have to have a high roof adding a low ceiling to block the sun and rain is not too bad'. If the high roof is it then in the peak of summer the afternoon sun is going to be the death of anyone on the western platform, esp if they're waiting for a Belair train. The glare could well be death inducing...
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
But DP, if they got rid of the arty-farty walkway how could the designers pat each other on the back as they admire it when they DRIVE down Anzac Highway?
Pressman
That would be about it Pressman in a nutshell. Laughing

These architects or designers have no real idea of the weather here in Adelaide by the looks of it. I have been to the former Keswick metro station years ago when it had shelters and the wind drove the rain parallel to the ground almost, a wall or something similar is the only thing that will stop it even with a roof over it. Leaving a station open like this and Oaklands is not good for the intending passengers and could drive some commuters away actually. No one wants to get wet through on their way to work at a railway station. Sure you can take a brolly or a raincoat but surely some kind of better shelter could be provided than what you get now.
  Sarails Assistant Commissioner

Location: @ Work
Best to leave art works to places like Festival Centre grounds etc.
David Peters
I disagree.

Good Art should surround us and elevate our lives from the mundane, through appreciation of the emotions that art draws upon.

So the more art around the better, lets interact with beautiful things more often and celebrate life rather than rationalise it through economics and is this worth the cost comments.
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

Good point Sarails.

I am not sure that the Wayville foot bridge is really art. What we do need is good design which maximises both function and form.

Adelaide has missed out badly when it comes to form in structures, everything built on the cheap.

Ian
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

I am not sure that the Wayville foot bridge is really art.
"steam4ian"
No - if it has function it's not art!

What we do need is good design which maximises both function and form.

Adelaide has missed out badly when it comes to form in structures, everything built on the cheap.

Ian
"steam4ian"
I agree, some projects nail it (e.g. Northern Expressway, SAHMRI, Adelaide Oval outward-facing facades) but many don't. I think this has generally improved in recent years.

I'm also not convinced that the assembly of the bridge is the actual cause of things being delayed as the minister has claimed.
  62430 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Metro Adelaide
Photos from Wayville today.

1. Western span in fabrication


2. Eastern span in place


3. Showgrounds Station - general view


Alex C
  fabricator Chief Commissioner

Location: Gawler
Ah now I understand, the bridge sections may be prefabricated, but still need roof cladding and safety mesh installed before they can be lifted into place. Getting the actual bridge into place before the line reopens is doable, it's the ramps and elevator that get done after that stage, which are going to hold things up.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

By the way, the island platform (Seaford/Tonsley up trains and a bidirectional line for Belair) does not get a ramp, only the lift and stairs.

Apart from the Ashes Test in two weeks, the Seaford line is still going to be closed for nights and weekends once weekday service resumes. This week will hopefully see some quite intense testing of the proposed timetable and signalling once all the driver training runs are completed, so that could push the bridge installation back to next weekend when the Belair line is also closed.
  62430 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Metro Adelaide
Notices were up at Mile End stating that on Monday 9th Dec that daytime Belair trains would be a shuttle Goodwood - Belair connecting with Noarlunga trains.  This to allow erection of the western span of the Showgrounds foot bridge.

Alex C

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