What does rural Victoria get?

 
  wyche123 Locomotive Fireman

With the Govt and opposition making numerous promises for Melbourne transport needs. What is rural Victoria to get?

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  melbtrip Chief Commissioner

Location: Annoying Orange
With the Govt and opposition making numerous promises for Melbourne transport needs. What is rural Victoria to get?
wyche123
ALP said" $1 billion in funding for the repair and upgrade of roads and level crossings in regional areas
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
ALP said" $1 billion in funding for the repair and upgrade of roads and level crossings in regional areas
melbtrip
That funding would go towards trying to repair (patch up) highways and main roads that will be destroyed by B triples operation.

Few rural roads can withstand the pounding of these machines during the Winter and Spring Months.
  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
Wait for Part B of their policy.  Coming soon.
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
ALP said" $1 billion in funding for the repair and upgrade of roads and level crossings in regional areas
melbtrip
And how many km of roads or crossings is that?   Not many but the way Government costs blow out.
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Wait for Part B of their policy.  Coming soon.
Trainplanner

could the second part of their proposed plan include any funding for http://www.railpage.com.au/news/article-13329/ the rail revival between Geelong-Ballarat-Maryborough-Bendigo?
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
could the second part of their proposed plan include any funding for http://www.railpage.com.au/news/article-13329/ the rail revival between Geelong-Ballarat-Maryborough-Bendigo?
JimYarin
Or, perhaps, duplication of the line from Kyneton-Bendigo and Caroline Springs-Ballarat?
  frezno Junior Train Controller

With the Govt and opposition making numerous promises for Melbourne transport needs. What is rural Victoria to get?
wyche123

You're kidding me, right? Rural Victoria? Melbourne's poor, incestuous cousins?

The only things government care about are their precious Melbournians not having to wait longer than 6.4 seconds for a train to anywhere, and building a $9b obscene tunnel that we do not need, to accommodate 9 carriage trains - which we also do not need.

Don't worry about better serving Victorians who have no public transport, or one bus a day if they're lucky - just make sure there is a 2 minute service to Pakenham.


Good to see they have their priorities right.
  Mr. Lane Chief Commissioner

If they had their priorities right, they would be building the metro tunnel now. It is needed.
  vlocity160 V/Gunzel

You're kidding me, right? ... building a $9b obscene tunnel that we do not need, to accommodate 9 carriage trains - which we also do not need.
frezno
You're kidding me right?! Take a ride on a Metro train going pretty much anywhere in peak hour and see how you go. The metro rail tunnel would do so much for the reliability of the train network by isolating each line pretty much.

Also, just for the record I don't live in Melbourne either. I live in regional VIC...
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
If they had their priorities right, they would be building the metro tunnel now. It is needed.
Mr. Lane

I completely agree.  The metro rail tunnel is needed right now, not in 20 years.  You will not get an airport rail link without the metro rail tunnel.

Regards
Brian
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
I completely agree.  The metro rail tunnel is needed right now, not in 20 years.  You will not get an airport rail link without the metro rail tunnel.

Regards
Brian
bevans
One thing I don't understand Is why an Tullamarine airport rail service would go via the proposed metro tunnel ?

An airport service need to go to Spencer Street Station (as Sky Bus does) SSS has all the facilities that passengers arriving from overseas, Interstate, rural Victoria need when they first arrive In the city, no other station In Melbourne has adequate facilities, plus It has the most public transport connections then any other station In the State.

Travel to Deutschland/Germany and you will find many Cities have S Bahn (above ground mass rail transit) links to their Flughafens/Airports and all services go to the Cities Hauptbahnhof/Main Station, along with most other Cities In the Western World, It's just plain common sense.

Tullamarine Airport Rail link via RRL !
A diesel train every 20 minutes would be good enough to start off, Sky Bus would still continue to compete along the Tullamarine Freeway, but may serve other activity centres around Greater Melbourne (Frankston, Greensborough, Ringwood, Werribee, Chadstone, etc with direct express services)
Future plans would be electrification of RRL Geelong, Ballarat and Airport (25 KV AC @ 50 Hz)
  Ballast_Plough Chief Commissioner

Location: Lilydale, Vic
It's the easte-west road tunnel that's not needed.
  Mr. Lane Chief Commissioner

One thing I don't understand Is why an Tullamarine airport rail service would go via the proposed metro tunnel ?

An airport service need to go to Spencer Street Station (as Sky Bus does) SSS has all the facilities that passengers arriving from overseas, Interstate, rural Victoria need when they first arrive In the city, no other station In Melbourne has adequate facilities, plus It has the most public transport connections then any other station In the State.

Travel to Deutschland/Germany and you will find many Cities have S Bahn (above ground mass rail transit) links to their Flughafens/Airports and all services go to the Cities Hauptbahnhof/Main Station, along with most other Cities In the Western World, It's just plain common sense.

Tullamarine Airport Rail link via RRL !
A diesel train every 20 minutes would be good enough to start off, Sky Bus would still continue to compete along the Tullamarine Freeway, but may serve other activity centres around Greater Melbourne (Frankston, Greensborough, Ringwood, Werribee, Chadstone, etc with direct express services)
Future plans would be electrification of RRL Geelong, Ballarat and Airport (25 KV AC @ 50 Hz)
Nightfire

I have traveled a bit in Germany as well. They get it right. It works.

Whats more, you basically have put forward exactly my thinking on how to do it. For a while I was thinking that it would be best to make a Melbourne Airport link part of the suburban network and kill two birds with one stone and provide some suburban services to Airport West and Tullamarine as well. I think now Melbourne Airport should be run like a regional line...maybe even by V/Line...using stock with first class seating, buffet service, toilets and plenty of baggage space...with some 160km/h action.

15 years or so from now V/Line will probably be thinking about new stock. They should buy an EMU on AC traction, electrify RRL through to Geelong/Marshall and through to Melbourne Airport. Geelong should be provided with a separate pair of tracks on the Tarneit leg at some point expressing all stations on that section with Metro providing a service on DC traction through to the metro tunnel...along with Sunbury and Melton services.
  Dd893 Train Controller

Location: Castlemaine
Or, perhaps, duplication of the line from Kyneton-Bendigo and Caroline Springs-Ballarat?
railblogger
During the July shutdown of the Bendigo Line, a lot of various work was done including tree removal, sleeper replacement, etc.

Just north of Castlemaine at Skew Bridge, the single track & sleepers were lifted and ballast cleaned away.
The large bluestone blocks were lifted off and brick sidewalls knocked down.
Quite a number of large holes were bored into the approach embankments at each end and also the side embankments, rio put in and filled with concrete for piles.
I gather during a forthcoming shutdown, track work and the old steel deck beams will be removed and a new concrete deck or beams will be dropped into position.
This bridge deck will be a lot wider than the old bridge deck, which was originally double track until RFR upgrade (downgrade), so I gather it is going back to double track.
The old bridge deck beams still have an advert for "Sunshine Biscuits" on them.

Then you get out to the Calder Freeway at Harcourt which opened nearly 5 years ago, but the railway bridge was built as single track, so another bridge needs to be built to permit a 2nd track.

Plenty of re-work to be done to re-instate the 2nd track, but as we know governments will make big announcements to make themselves look good and the good they are doing for the State.

Cheers, Murray
  alstom_888m Chief Commissioner

Location:
Part of living in the country is you get less services. I moved to the big smoke because I needed a job and I didn't want to commute. At all. Not by PT and not by car.

If it was my call; I would provide enough VLocity to make all interurban runs running DMU's, finish RRL, retire the Harris cars, all intercity running SN sets. Bus services between Geelong and Ballarat and possibly Bendigo should be increased to hourly.

Suburban services need to be fixed. An airport rail is needed, now.

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